Software engineers can no longer neglect their soft skills
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Re: Software engineers can no longer neglect their soft skills
#2The irony here is that universities are struggling to teach writing skills, due to massive cheating with AI.
Re: Software engineers can no longer neglect their soft skills
#3This couldn't ring more true to me - I think one of the consequences of the rapid change in the profession we are seeing is that skills that typically were required only at more senior levels become required further down the stack.
If I was a junior today, I'd be studying business impact, effective communication, project management, skills that were previously something you could get away with under-indexing on until senior+.
Re: Software engineers can no longer neglect their soft skills
#4Software 'engineers' are going to have learn the hard skills that they have gotten by without thus far. The ones who were never engineers in the first place will have to learn 'soft skills' because they are incapable. I believe @ Tsoding put it best: The only thing AI will do, in so far as coding goes, is to remove a lot of people who should never have been in it in the first place.
Re: Software engineers can no longer neglect their soft skills
#5As usual - the advice is essenially rats from a sinking ship all the way. “You all need to do this narrow thing to survive now”.
2016 to truckers: “Learn to code LOL”
2026 to coders: “Learn soft skills”
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46436872
Look, I personally am taking full advantage of exactly the skills described. I was the one who posted the above thing on HN showing how I am 20-50x more productive now, complete with a 4 hour speedrun video. I usually try not to just talk and point out current problems, but build solutions AND show (github, youtube) with specific details so you can watch it and apply it for yourself. But I am telling you:
1) most people will not adapt, so we will need UBI for those who don’t
2) eventually even those who adapt will be replaced too, so we will need UBI for everybody
It is after all a thin layer that remains. I remember Kasparov proudly talked about how “centaurs” (human + machine working together) in chess were better than machines alone… until they weren’t, and human in the loop became a liability.
But the problem is more widespread in the last 70 years. Just look around. Industry always tells the individual they can do some individual action downstream to clean up the mess they create upstream, and it is leading the entire planet into ruin:
https://magarshak.com/blog/government-and-industry-distract-...
In fact, the human population in modern environments has been living large on an ecological credit card and the bill is coming due for our children, because all the “individual responsibility” stuff — where you can somehow diet, exercise and recycle your way out of things corporations do upstream — is all a gient lie and always has been. So the negative externalities just build up until the next generation won’t be able to ignore them anymore, but it could be too late. Whether that’als day zero for water in cities, or factory farms for meat with antiobiotic resistance, or fossil fuels and greenhouse gases to subsidize the car industry, or ubiqitous microplastic plastic pollution around thr world (yes, personal plastic recycling was just another such scam designed to keep you docile and not organize to force corporations to switch to biodegradeable materials.) The “anthoposcene” is seeing a decline in insects and all species of animal except humans and farm animals. Coral reefs are bleached, kelp forests and rainforests are decimated, and governments work with industry to eg allow Patagonian forests to be burned for new developments and then smokey the bear says “only YOU can prevent forest fires”. Think about it.
Re: Software engineers can no longer neglect their soft skills
#6Software 'engineers' are going to have learn the hard skills that they have gotten by without thus far. The ones who were never engineers in the first place will have to learn 'soft skills' because they are incapable. I believe @ Tsoding put it best: The only thing AI will do, in so far as coding goes, is to remove a lot of people who should never have been in it in the first place.
Can you elaborate on this?
What are some examples of skills you think are now essential, that prior have been taken for granted or obviated in some way?
Re: Software engineers can no longer neglect their soft skills
#7The irony here is that universities are struggling to teach writing skills, due to massive cheating with AI.
I mentor CS students at two local universities. The best students are using gen ai to enhance their learning and understanding (i.e. they use it as a tool instead of a crutch). The worst students are using it in attempt to “level the playing field” and are failing miserably.
It is easy to determine if someone solved a problem using AI because they can’t explain or recreate “their” solution. Detecting cheating in essays is still far more difficult.
Re: Software engineers can no longer neglect their soft skills
#8As usual - the advice is essenially rats from a sinking ship all the way. “You all need to do this narrow thing to survive now”. 2016 to truckers: “Learn to code LOL” 2026 to coders: “Learn soft skills” https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46436872 Look, I personally am taking full advantage of exactly the skills described. I was the one who posted the above thing on HN showing how I am 20-50x more productive now, co…
I may have misread your comment, but I don't think soft skills are a 'narrow thing' at all. Effective communication, building trust, bringing people along with you - these are fundamental to being an effective human, not some niche pivot.
Re: Software engineers can no longer neglect their soft skills
#9I would submit that this could be based on a stereotype that “coder = antisocial.”
Why are we assuming that people who write code don’t have soft skills?
The youngest generation who joined the profession are probably in it for the the salary versus the older generations who came from computer clubs and dungeons and dragons groups of the 1970s/1980s along with a culture where having a niche interest was socially ostracizing and uncool.
I wonder if the youngest generation entering the profession is much more of a cross section of regular people?
Re: Software engineers can no longer neglect their soft skills
#10Software 'engineers' are going to have learn the hard skills that they have gotten by without thus far. The ones who were never engineers in the first place will have to learn 'soft skills' because they are incapable. I believe @ Tsoding put it best: The only thing AI will do, in so far as coding goes, is to remove a lot of people who should never have been in it in the first place.
Can you elaborate on this? What are some examples of skills you think are now essential, that prior have been taken for granted or obviated in some way?
Beyond engineering itself, strictly computer engineering?
How many coders have no idea what goes on behind an IDE. Have not even the slightest notion how a computer works. Who thinks building a computer means watching a Youtube video and buying ready made parts, putting them together, and then think they should be employed by NASA.
To begin: Math, Linux, Devops, C, and Assembly. Not a youtube video. Not arithmetic. Learn to the point that you could be employed by any of the above as a senior. And don't fear failure. Keep doing it until you understand it.