Minnesota is under siege. This cannot stand
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Minnesota is under siege. This cannot stand
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Re: Minnesota is under siege. This cannot stand
#2General Strike. Shut down the economy until ICE is out. Put the Trump administration under economic siege. It is peaceful, and it will work.
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> when Obama deported 3M+ illegals, the sanctuary cities helped and the media didn't cover it like it was Nazi Germany
Perhaps it has to do with the method used?
I don't think most people are in favor of illegal immigration. That would be an extremist view. Most people are probably somewhere in the middle and I don't think that band is too wide.
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> when Obama deported 3M+ illegals, the sanctuary cities helped and the media didn't cover it like it was Nazi Germany Perhaps it has to do with the method used? I don't think most people are in favor of illegal immigration. That would be an extremist view. Most people are probably somewhere in the middle and I don't think that band is too wide.
>Perhaps it has to do with the method used?
It was different because the sanctuary cities turned over lists of the students whose parents weren't citizens. It made it a lot easier. Also no media coverage. You won't know if the tactics were any different because democrat cities actually complied with the law. Again, it goes to democrats being hypocrites and selectively caring/enforcing issues when they think people are paying attention.
>I don't think most people are in favor of illegal immigration. That would be an extremist view. Most people are probably somewhere in the middle and I don't think that band is too wide.
Yep, I live in California and we require immigration for a lot of jobs and industries. I'm not against immigration... in a past life I worked in immigration law. I am against this selective enforcement of the law depending on who is the President. You can't run a country like this.
Re: Minnesota is under siege. This cannot stand
#6General Strike. Shut down the economy until ICE is out. Put the Trump administration under economic siege. It is peaceful, and it will work.
The problem I've found is coordinating. The idea that we need a sizable chunk of the country to all work together in leaderless organization, is noble but lofty. Every attempt I've ever seen is something extremely easy for the feds to disrupt like a Facebook, Reddit, or Discord group, where everyone collectively bikesheds and no decisions get made.
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The article doesn’t talk about whether immigration enforcement is good, instead focusing on the side effects of the current federal deployment in Minnesota.
Re: Minnesota is under siege. This cannot stand
#8General Strike. Shut down the economy until ICE is out. Put the Trump administration under economic siege. It is peaceful, and it will work.
I always see "general strike" mentioned as if it's some powerful solution to work towards. But even ignoring the practicalities of organizing such a thing, I don't understand how the effects would be helpful. It's not like the brownshirts would go on strike, Trump is happy to print trillions of dollars in new debt, it would impoverish many of the very people working against this, and the type of society-wrecking chaos would appear to be exactly what Trump (ie his foreign handlers) want.
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The article doesn’t talk about whether immigration enforcement is good, instead focusing on the side effects of the current federal deployment in Minnesota.
Sure, and I'm pointing out what's changed from Obama to Trump is the way that 'sanctuary cities' are complying with federal immigration laws. Under Obama, the sanctuary cities provided lists of students whose parents weren't citizens etc and the media didn't cover the arrests etc. It's selective enforcement of the law. When democrats are in power, they enforce it and media ignores it. When republicans are in power, they defy it and media covers it like it's Nazi Germany. It's absurd and anyone paying attention should reject this framing.
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>So when a city declares itself a 'sanctuary city'
...they are saying that because immigarion law is federal (as you point out) they will not assist in its enforcement.
>democrats to just bring in tens of millions of illegal immigrants
No one, except the immigrants themselves, brought the immigrants here. That's what makes one an immigrant....they immigrate.
>Why can't we just go back to having a rule of law?
This is a very apt question being asked daily of the Trump administration.