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IBM: The cost difference is too great for business not to look for H1B workers

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Re: IBM: The cost difference is too great for business not to look for H1B workers

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Tough economics questions: To what extent would these people still be willing to work for cheap if we let them immigrate and become legitimate Americans with a simple, easy process? Are they just willing to work for less in general, or is there a pattern of monopsonistic exploitation or other similar exploitation due to the legal process surrounding the H1-B process and how it is attached to an employer sponsor? If the latter, how can we procure evidence and measure the effect?

Re: IBM: The cost difference is too great for business not to look for H1B workers

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A very simple solution used here in Europe is that the VISA does not tie you up with the employer! This was the employer has all the expenses and work to bring you but if your wage is not competitive you can just leave the company and enter in another one who pays you the market price. The problem in USA is that the foreigners are totally under the control of the hiring company, so sure you create an artificial lower-wage group.

Re: IBM: The cost difference is too great for business not to look for H1B workers

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the biggest flaw in this articles - which mind you isn`t backed up with any sort of proof that serves to validate his allegations of IBM being the number one "misuser" nor can we be really sure this email exchange is for real.. Is the assumption that Landed Resources come on H1B - thats plain wrong. The difference between H1B & landed resources is that H1B employees can work in the US and get paid above a certain level. Landed resources are those who get visas for projects through their companies and head to the US to work on these projects while still getting their salary at home. Its important to understand and acknowledge this difference since H1B is a way for good people who are needed to get employed - and mixing it up with a loophole that allows easy intra company transfers or extended project visits only serves to tarnish its image.

Re: IBM: The cost difference is too great for business not to look for H1B workers

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the biggest flaw in this articles - which mind you isn`t backed up with any sort of proof that serves to validate his allegations of IBM being the number one "misuser" nor can we be really sure this email exchange is for real.. Is the assumption that Landed Resources come on H1B - thats plain wrong. The difference between H1B & landed resources is that H1B employees can work in the US and get paid above a certain lev…

Most likely an L1 visa then?

Re: IBM: The cost difference is too great for business not to look for H1B workers

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If your job is to put butts in seats so you can bill for them, yeah.

If your job is to deliver products, you'll find you get what you pay for, I work with some guys who maybe make 10k less than they could because of their immigration status but it's not a difference between 150k and 60k or something.

Re: IBM: The cost difference is too great for business not to look for H1B workers

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Absolutely horrible state of affairs, I understand that because of the economic incentive that this will and does happen all the time.

I feel that the only way to stop this is to take away the economic incentive to hire foreign workers. If there was a tax that required the difference between market for the position to be paid to state and federal government we would solve this problem overnight.

I also think part of this problem is the general attitude that business has that everyone is generally a replaceable cog in a machine. Don't get me wrong I have meet and worked with H1-B holders that were superstars, but many of them are not perfect candidates and end up costing more in productivity and efficiency then a Grade A local engineer. A ninja developer can be 20x more productive then someone who is not if you believe the hype, I think companies should focus on getting the right people then just thinking about the people who are cheap. While the ninja might still be an H1-B, we should have a level playing field where the best guy wins. Its better for the company overall, but unfortunately many people are too shortsighted to see that.

Re: IBM: The cost difference is too great for business not to look for H1B workers

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Absolutely horrible state of affairs, I understand that because of the economic incentive that this will and does happen all the time. I feel that the only way to stop this is to take away the economic incentive to hire foreign workers. If there was a tax that required the difference between market for the position to be paid to state and federal government we would solve this problem overnight. I also think part of…

Alpha superstar ninja developers are from Japan. You are going to need a H1-B for those.
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