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Pickle 1 AR Glasses (YC W25) May Be Fraudulent

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Re: Pickle 1 AR Glasses (YC W25) May Be Fraudulent

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Putting aside whether or not they are a fraud, their design looks so good, unlike Meta's ugly glasses. Which of course, might be because it's the one thing they've spent time on in the past 2 months of dev time, and they may not actually be accounting for any practical manufacturing realities.

Re: Pickle 1 AR Glasses (YC W25) May Be Fraudulent

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> I'll bet Pickle's CEO - Daniel Park - all of their pre-order revenues if they miss their Q2 2026 delivery estimate for US customers. If he delivers in Q2, I'll pay him all the money they've accepted from pre-orders; if he doesn't, he pays me (should he accept).

This guy is serious.

Re: Pickle 1 AR Glasses (YC W25) May Be Fraudulent

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I spend a lot of time on power opt for small systems. The promises w.r.t. power numbers when taken in conjunction with promised features/brightnesses are 100% a lie given current SoC/battery/cooling tech.

"absolutely no latency" -> only apple manages anything close to this, and that -- with custom silicon that can feed data from the camera to screen while it is still being read out from the camera. A no-name startup doing this ain't happening.

Re: Pickle 1 AR Glasses (YC W25) May Be Fraudulent

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post #3

Putting aside whether or not they are a fraud, their design looks so good, unlike Meta's ugly glasses. Which of course, might be because it's the one thing they've spent time on in the past 2 months of dev time, and they may not actually be accounting for any practical manufacturing realities.

I am not going to argue about the design looking “good” or not, but it’s irrelevant if the device doesn’t do what it says it does.

The reason AR glasses are chonky and not sexy is because they have a bunch of hardware and batteries and whatnot that require them to be that shape and size.

Assuming they’re fraudulent, they can make it look like anything they want because it doesn’t do what it purports. I’m sure that RayBan and Meta want them to look better but it’s simply not possible with the technology they have.

Re: Pickle 1 AR Glasses (YC W25) May Be Fraudulent

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I'm surprised no one has tried to skip cameras all together and use ultrasound. mics use two or maybe even three orders of magnitude for an audio -> object inference stack vs visual. of course you can't detect colors or do A LOT of things, but hey, you could make glasses really look like regular glasses, especially if you got rid of the screens too.

Re: Pickle 1 AR Glasses (YC W25) May Be Fraudulent

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I'm surprised no one has tried to skip cameras all together and use ultrasound. mics use two or maybe even three orders of magnitude for an audio -> object inference stack vs visual. of course you can't detect colors or do A LOT of things, but hey, you could make glasses really look like regular glasses, especially if you got rid of the screens too.

They tried it back with the Powerglove.

Not sure why you think we have off the shelf miniaturized sonar hardware at scale and shape detection tech that could beat out mobile cameras and computer vision software.

Re: Pickle 1 AR Glasses (YC W25) May Be Fraudulent

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post #8

I'm surprised no one has tried to skip cameras all together and use ultrasound. mics use two or maybe even three orders of magnitude for an audio -> object inference stack vs visual. of course you can't detect colors or do A LOT of things, but hey, you could make glasses really look like regular glasses, especially if you got rid of the screens too.

They tried it back with the Powerglove. Not sure why you think we have off the shelf miniaturized sonar hardware at scale and shape detection tech that could beat out mobile cameras and computer vision software.

> Not sure why you think we have off the shelf miniaturized sonar hardware at scale and shape detection tech that could beat out mobile cameras and computer vision software.

uhm I didn't say that - what I am asking is exactly the opposite, in fact and the power glove thing was hardly capitalized. I wouldn't consider that a serious attempt.

Re: Pickle 1 AR Glasses (YC W25) May Be Fraudulent

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post #8

I'm surprised no one has tried to skip cameras all together and use ultrasound. mics use two or maybe even three orders of magnitude for an audio -> object inference stack vs visual. of course you can't detect colors or do A LOT of things, but hey, you could make glasses really look like regular glasses, especially if you got rid of the screens too.

They tried it back with the Powerglove. Not sure why you think we have off the shelf miniaturized sonar hardware at scale and shape detection tech that could beat out mobile cameras and computer vision software.

Pretty sure Wayne Tech had the prototype of this sonar-vision translation layer of software all wrapped up way back in 2008, so it’s just a matter of productizing that, and since Pickle seems to deal in fiction already there’s good product synergy.
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