Keep the Robots Out of the Gym
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Keep the Robots Out of the Gym
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#2If gym is a mindset, hard to separate from the other.
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#3> [AI/LLM writes] why I made the decisions I did
When one thinks about human decision making, there are at least two classes of decisions:
1. decisions made with our "fast" minds: ducking out of the way of an incoming object, turning around when someone calls our name ... a whole host of decisions made without much if any conscious attention, and that if you asked the human who made those decisions you wouldn't get much useful information about.
2. decisions made with our "slow" minds: deciding which of 3 gifts to get for Aunt Mary, choosing to give a hug to our cousin, deciding to double the chile in the recipe we're cooking ... a whole host of decisions that require conscious reasoning, and if you asked the human who made those decisions you would get a reasonably coherent, explanatory logic chain.
When considering why an LLM "made the decisions that it did", it seems important to understand whether those decisions are closer to type 1 or type 2. If the LLM arrived at them the way we arrive at a type 1 decision, it is not clear that an explanation of why is of much value. If an LLM arrived at them the way we arrive at a type 2 decision, the explanation might be fairly interesting and valuable.
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#4You're really rizzing up the whole "AI can do almost everything better than humans" point. Is there a chance that your investments are causing you to sensationalize things a bit? Because I can promise you, AI can only do better the things that I have absolutely no skill in.
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#5It's an interesting one. We'll have to discover where to draw that line in education and training.
It is an incredible accelerant in top-down 'theory driven' learning, which is objectively good, I think we can all agree. Like, it's a better world having that than not having it. But at the same time there's a tension between that and the sort of bottom-up practice-driven learning that's pretty inarguably required for mastery.
Perhaps the answer is as mundane as one must simply do both, and failing to do both will just result in... failure to learn properly. Kind of as it is today except today there's often no truly accessible / convenient top-down option at all therefore it's not a question anyone thinks about.
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#6It's an interesting one. We'll have to discover where to draw that line in education and training. It is an incredible accelerant in top-down 'theory driven' learning, which is objectively good, I think we can all agree. Like, it's a better world having that than not having it. But at the same time there's a tension between that and the sort of bottom-up practice-driven learning that's pretty inarguably required for…
OP here, yeah, I think that's a really good point.
I feel like the way I'm building this in is a violent maintenance of two extremes.
On one hand, fully merged with AI and acting like we are one being, having it do tons of work for me.
And then on the other hand is like this analog gym where I'm stripped of all my augmentations and tools and connectivity, and I am being quizzed on how good I could do just by myself.
And based on how well I can do in the NAUG scenario, that's what determines what tweaks need to be made to regular AUG workflows to improve my NAUG performance.
Especially for those core identity things that I really care about. Like critical thinking, creating and countering arguments, identifying my own bias, etc.
I think as the tech gets better and better, we'll eventually have an assistant whose job is to make sure that our un-augmented performance is improving, vs. deteriorating. But until then, we have to find a way to work this into the system ourselves.
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#7We want machines to do the laundry and clean our house so we have more time to create art and write code. Seems like in our current trajectory, the machines will produce the art and code so we have more time to clean our house and do laundry....
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#8If gym is a mindset, hard to separate from the other.
I think that comes down to documenting the mindset as a goal and then using all the AI, scaffolding, and tools available to that system to help you nurture that mindset.
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#9We want machines to do the laundry and clean our house so we have more time to create art and write code. Seems like in our current trajectory, the machines will produce the art and code so we have more time to clean our house and do laundry....
Ah man...that's good.
But maybe both of those are in the category of undesirable things.
And the things we end up with are like art and baking and walking and talking and drinking coffee and such.
Professional Chess is a nice pattern here. A calculator can beat Magnus Carlsen at this point, but Chess is more popular than ever. So it should be ok if AI/Robots are better than us at all the stuff we still decide to do.
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#10This is a great framework for self-development, but I wonder if the Job vs. Gym analogy is a bit premature. There seems to be a level of Silicon Valley optimism here that assumes AI already surpasses human capability in these creative areas. From my perspective, AI only outperforms in areas where the human hasn't developed a real craft. Is it possible that the current hype is causing us to undervalue the unique quality of human-only output?