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Stop Slopware
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Stop Slopware
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Re: Stop Slopware
#2If man-made software was high quality, this problem would resolve itself , because “slopware” would be easily distinguishable.
The best way to resolve this is to write man-made software that’s good quality.
It’s just a tool
Re: Stop Slopware
#3My reflex is to call the website useless because the problem isn't usually software produced by individuals. My problem is the buggy messes that trillion dollar corporations produce.
Re: Stop Slopware
#4My “slopware” has brought in $200K a month.
As long as it works and people’s problems are solved, I don’t see any issue with it?
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#5My “slopware” has brought in $200K a month. As long as it works and people’s problems are solved, I don’t see any issue with it?
This seems directed at people sharing low-effort AI-generated open source projects.
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#6> if you’re doing this for your own learning: you will learn better without AI.
I'm certain that's not true. AI is the single biggest gift we could possible give to people who are learning to program - it's shaved that learning curve down to a point where you don't need to carve out six months of your life just to get to a point where you can build something small and useful that works.
AI only hurts learning if you let it. You can still use AI and learn effectively if you are thoughtful about the way you apply it.
100% rejecting AI as a learner programmer may feel like the right thing to do, but at this point it's similar to saying "I'm going to learn to program without ever Googling for anything at all".
(I do not yet know how to teach people to learn effectively with AI though. I think that's a very important missing piece of this whole puzzle.)
I'm a BIG fan of these three points though:
rewrite the parts you understand
learn the parts you don’t
make it so you can reason about every detail
Re: Stop Slopware
#7My “slopware” has brought in $200K a month. As long as it works and people’s problems are solved, I don’t see any issue with it?
You don't seem to be responding to anything the site says.
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#8> if you’re doing this for your own learning: you will learn better without AI . I'm certain that's not true. AI is the single biggest gift we could possible give to people who are learning to program - it's shaved that learning curve down to a point where you don't need to carve out six months of your life just to get to a point where you can build something small and useful that works. AI only hurts learning if you…
The author probably meant "coding without AI", not "learning without AI".
Re: Stop Slopware
#9The author wrote an essay to accompany this site here: https://ficd.sh/blog/your-project-sucks/
Re: Stop Slopware
#10Why would any actual software engineer be against slopware?
When it inevitably all comes crashing down because there was no actual software architecture or understanding of the code, someone will have to come in to make the actual product.
Hopefully by then we will have realistic expectations for the LLM, have skilled up, and we as a community treat them as just another feature in the IDE.