Why isn't online age verification just like showing your ID in person?
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Re: Why isn't online age verification just like showing your ID in person?
#2It's not about age verification and it never was, that is a distraction at best and a delusion at worst. This is about tying your real name to all of your online activities, and about getting the current generation of children used to it and accepting of it before they reach voting age.
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#3Discussion on the mentioned age verification hub here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46223389
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#4Paradoxically this is one of those features/requirements that i feel should be on the end-user-device with zero knowledge proof.
It would make sense to have the enduser verification ondevice with a simple reply to any online property : Passed age verification/or not.
Otherwise the centralization and eventual leak of this data is a can of worms in waiting.
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#5It's not about age verification and it never was, that is a distraction at best and a delusion at worst. This is about tying your real name to all of your online activities, and about getting the current generation of children used to it and accepting of it before they reach voting age.
BINGO!!!
Re: Why isn't online age verification just like showing your ID in person?
#6Paradoxically this is one of those features/requirements that i feel should be on the end-user-device with zero knowledge proof. It would make sense to have the enduser verification ondevice with a simple reply to any online property : Passed age verification/or not. Otherwise the centralization and eventual leak of this data is a can of worms in waiting.
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Re: Why isn't online age verification just like showing your ID in person?
#7Paradoxically this is one of those features/requirements that i feel should be on the end-user-device with zero knowledge proof. It would make sense to have the enduser verification ondevice with a simple reply to any online property : Passed age verification/or not. Otherwise the centralization and eventual leak of this data is a can of worms in waiting.
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Re: Why isn't online age verification just like showing your ID in person?
#8It's not about age verification and it never was, that is a distraction at best and a delusion at worst. This is about tying your real name to all of your online activities, and about getting the current generation of children used to it and accepting of it before they reach voting age.
I would counter that they already have that. Would go so far to say that the government knows pretty much everything you do online by name. What they can't control, it's access. I think the reason for this is for an eventual license to get on the Internet. The same way you need a license to drive a car, you will need a license tied to your real identity, to use the Internet.
Re: Why isn't online age verification just like showing your ID in person?
#9Paradoxically this is one of those features/requirements that i feel should be on the end-user-device with zero knowledge proof. It would make sense to have the enduser verification ondevice with a simple reply to any online property : Passed age verification/or not. Otherwise the centralization and eventual leak of this data is a can of worms in waiting.
Here [1] is the zero knowledge solution. It has existed for ages but not adopted likely due to not providing a name, SSN, location and credit card. No third parties, no dependency on CDN's, no sharing or leaking ... anything.
Given that solution is unlikely to be legislated into action I would suggest people are just going to share adult content on Usenet, Tor, P2P, within G/PG rated video games by plonking down a virtual theater and streaming from a throw-away VM and fully automating syncing with LFTP+mirror+SFTP, sharing USB NVME drives, mobile ephemeral websites over WiFi and other methods when people get tired of this Top/Bottom relationship lobbyists want us to participate in. As a plus side, driving people underground means zero tracking, rules, taxes, obligations, leaking email addresses, etc...
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#10Look at the Overton window rapidly shrinking. Thanks EFF!