DeepSeek uses banned Nvidia chips for AI model, report says

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Post by goodway » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 4:34 PM UTC

(Original is https://www.theinformation.com/articles/deepseek-using-banne... but hardwalled)

DeepSeek uses banned Nvidia chips for AI model, report says
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Post by cultofmetatron » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 4:55 PM UTC

this is revenge for stealing their silkmoths isnt it?

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Post by bilekas » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 4:56 PM UTC

I don't think anyone is surprised by this.. And I'm almost certain nothing will happen. When manufacturing is next door to you, you'll find a way to get your hands on chips.

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Post by strbean » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 5:00 PM UTC

The phrasing "chips that are banned in the country" seems completely inaccurate. These are chips that the US does not allow to be exported to China. We do not have the power to ban anything in China, that's up to the Chinese government.

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Post by saubeidl » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 5:01 PM UTC

strbean wrote: post #4

The phrasing "chips that are banned in the country" seems completely inaccurate. These are chips that the US does not allow to be exported to China. We do not have the power to ban anything in China, that's up to the Chinese government.

Which they did! https://techcrunch.com/2025/09/17/china-tells-its-tech-compa...

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Post by mongrelion » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 5:03 PM UTC

I recommend everyone to watch GamersNexus' documentary on the NVIDIA AI GPU black market. They explain how companies like DeepSeek can get a hold of chips that are otherwise banned by the US government to export to China

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H3xQaf7BFI

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Post by stronglikedan » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 5:03 PM UTC

bilekas wrote: post #3

I don't think anyone is surprised by this.. And I'm almost certain nothing will happen. When manufacturing is next door to you, you'll find a way to get your hands on chips.

> And I'm almost certain nothing will happen.

The Chinese government has done more for less so I wouldn't be so certain.

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Post by ok123456 » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 5:03 PM UTC

CIA disinformation campaigns notwithstanding, maybe accept global competition, open-source models, and the fact that whatever advantage OpenAI had was fleeting and mostly squandered at this point. The tendency of the rate of profit to fall is especially brutal if you've never made a profit.

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Post by bee_rider » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 5:04 PM UTC

It seems pretty difficult to prevent two other countries from trading, especially when it is sort of low-volume (I mean how many boats full of GPUs was this? It isn’t like oil or something, where we can see the infrastructure to consume it via satellite).

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Post by Shin-- » Wed, Dec 10, 2025, 5:04 PM UTC

Good. Unsurprising (well, known), but good. In fact, the world would be a better place if the US would not use their influence to try to keep other countries down.