Why AGI Will Not Happen
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Why AGI Will Not Happen
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Re: Why AGI Will Not Happen
#2TLDR;
No amount of fantastical thinking is going to coax AGI out of a box of inanimate binary switches --- aka, a computer as we know it.
Even with billions and billions of microscopic switches operating at extremely high speed consuming an enormous share of the world's energy, a computer will still be nothing more than a binary logic playback device.
Expecting anything more is to defy logic and physics and just assume that "intelligence" is a binary algorithm.
Re: Why AGI Will Not Happen
#3TLDR; No amount of fantastical thinking is going to coax AGI out of a box of inanimate binary switches --- aka, a computer as we know it. Even with billions and billions of microscopic switches operating at extremely high speed consuming an enormous share of the world's energy, a computer will still be nothing more than a binary logic playback device. Expecting anything more is to defy logic and physics and just assu…
Do you agree with that wild claim?
Re: Why AGI Will Not Happen
#4TLDR; No amount of fantastical thinking is going to coax AGI out of a box of inanimate binary switches --- aka, a computer as we know it. Even with billions and billions of microscopic switches operating at extremely high speed consuming an enormous share of the world's energy, a computer will still be nothing more than a binary logic playback device. Expecting anything more is to defy logic and physics and just assu…
> Expecting anything more is to defy logic and physics.
What logic and physics are being defied by the assumption that intelligence doesn't require the specific biological machinery we are accustomed to?
This is a ridiculous comment to make, you do nothing to actually prove the claims you're making, which are even stronger than the claims most people will make about the potential of AGI.
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#5Whew, someone has some /new stans. A mostly Claude written piece of meandering navel gazing that tries to punch above its philosophical weight and fails.
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#6I was willing to give this a chance because maybe he meant it won't happen soon, but no he's actually saying it will never happen. Crazy.
Re: Why AGI Will Not Happen
#7TLDR; No amount of fantastical thinking is going to coax AGI out of a box of inanimate binary switches --- aka, a computer as we know it. Even with billions and billions of microscopic switches operating at extremely high speed consuming an enormous share of the world's energy, a computer will still be nothing more than a binary logic playback device. Expecting anything more is to defy logic and physics and just assu…
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Re: Why AGI Will Not Happen
#8TLDR; No amount of fantastical thinking is going to coax AGI out of a box of inanimate binary switches --- aka, a computer as we know it. Even with billions and billions of microscopic switches operating at extremely high speed consuming an enormous share of the world's energy, a computer will still be nothing more than a binary logic playback device. Expecting anything more is to defy logic and physics and just assu…
So is the “binary” nature of today’s switches the core objection? We routinely simulate non-binary, continuous, and probabilistic systems using binary hardware. Neuroscientific models, fluid solvers, analog circuit simulators, etc., all run on the same “binary switches,” and produce behavior that cannot meaningfully be described as binary, only the substrate is.
Re: Why AGI Will Not Happen
#9TLDR; No amount of fantastical thinking is going to coax AGI out of a box of inanimate binary switches --- aka, a computer as we know it. Even with billions and billions of microscopic switches operating at extremely high speed consuming an enormous share of the world's energy, a computer will still be nothing more than a binary logic playback device. Expecting anything more is to defy logic and physics and just assu…
The article doesn't say anything along those lines as far as I can tell - it focuses on scaling laws and diminishing returns ("If you want to get linear improvements, you need exponential resources").
I generally agree with the article's point, though I think "Will Never Happen" is too strong of a conclusion, whereas I don't think the idea that simple components ("a box of inanimate binary switches") fundamentally cannot combine to produce complex behaviour is well-founded.
Re: Why AGI Will Not Happen
#10Whew, someone has some /new stans. A mostly Claude written piece of meandering navel gazing that tries to punch above its philosophical weight and fails.
I also soldiered through the piece and felt that unique way you feel after reading an unusually contentless longish text.