US Department of Homeland Security looking for (more than) a few good drones

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Post by godbolev » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 12:52 PM UTC

US Department of Homeland Security looking for (more than) a few good drones
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Post by ktizo » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 1:20 PM UTC

UK already has these for police. The Merseyside Police managed to ditch one of theirs into a lake. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-15520279

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Post by ck2 » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 1:20 PM UTC

That's federal level. State and local police are already shopping and some are already working with local military bases to use theirs.

All warrantless, no oversight. The mission creep is going to be scary.

They'll have to find a way to justify their incredible expense for the 99% of time they would be idle, so imagine the equal to speeding ticket quotas that will emerge.

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Post by fourmii » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 1:21 PM UTC

Speaking of drones:

http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/drone-fi...

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Post by sturadnidge » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 1:21 PM UTC

I was watching a documentary the other day about border smuggling - surely it's only a matter of time before drones are used for that, in which case what hope has domestic law enforcement got if they don't go down the same path.

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Post by eckyptang » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 1:22 PM UTC

ktizo wrote: post #2

UK already has these for police. The Merseyside Police managed to ditch one of theirs into a lake. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-15520279

That does it. I'm defending my airspace with anti-drone drones (until they are illegal).

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Post by secure » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 1:26 PM UTC

Obligatory book recommendation: http://www.amazon.de/Kill-Decision-Daniel-Suarez/dp/05259526...

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Post by mtgx » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 1:28 PM UTC

eckyptang wrote: post #6

ktizo wrote: post #2

UK already has these for police. The Merseyside Police managed to ditch one of theirs into a lake. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-15520279

That does it. I'm defending my airspace with anti-drone drones (until they are illegal).

Illegal for you.

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Post by kmfrk » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 1:49 PM UTC

There are many perfectly good uses for drones, but we all know the regulatory oversight will be completely negligent and insufficient.

It's in light of that that I have to wonder whether drones should just be vilified altogther.

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Post by ktizo » Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 1:51 PM UTC

The scariest thing about drones is that if both sides have drones, the winning strategy would seem to be in having millions of cheap drones directed by the sort of algorithms currently used in high frequency trading. Putting humans in the decision making loop for all of those just slows them down and vastly increases the expense and manpower requirements.