Good conversations have lots of doorknobs (2022)
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Good conversations have lots of doorknobs (2022)
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#3I wish it were easier to just say to someone. Hey I don’t want to hurt your feelings, but I’m feeling to end this conversation now. Is it OK that we bring it to an end?
Re: Good conversations have lots of doorknobs (2022)
#4I often feel like a "giver" in conversations, asking all the questions but never being given opportunities to share my own stories or viewpoint...
I seek and value friends that DO ask about me, and then try to remind myself to not take it for granted, and return the favor to them!
This gives some additional lens, though, to be flexible with "takers" and give them credit for putting themselves out there.
Re: Good conversations have lots of doorknobs (2022)
#5I wish it were easier to just say to someone. Hey I don’t want to hurt your feelings, but I’m feeling to end this conversation now. Is it OK that we bring it to an end?
Just say "Hey, I gotta run. It was nice talking to you." Or something to that effect. Most people aren't going to get upset if you need to wrap up a conversation. And if they do get upset (assuming they aren't having an emergency), it's a red flag.
Alternatives: "can we talk later, I'm really busy with ___."
Or in a work setting, "I'm in the middle of something, do you mind sending an email?"
Social settings, excuse yourself to the bathroom, they'll move on.
If you don't like the conversation, "do you mind if we talk about something else?".
There are tons of ways to wrap up or avoid conversation. The more honest you are the better. And take note of how others gracefully end conversations with you and use those phrases too.
Re: Good conversations have lots of doorknobs (2022)
#6I often feel like a "giver" in conversations, asking all the questions but never being given opportunities to share my own stories or viewpoint... I seek and value friends that DO ask about me, and then try to remind myself to not take it for granted, and return the favor to them! This gives some additional lens, though, to be flexible with "takers" and give them credit for putting themselves out there.
Once I realized that some people expect and are happy for you to jump in with unprompted thoughts or stories, it became easier for me to be intentional about doing so.
I think I'm a lot better now than when I was younger at adapting to a wide range of conversational styles, mostly just from paying more attention to that dynamic.
Do you feel like your conversational toolbox has evolved over time? :)
Re: Good conversations have lots of doorknobs (2022)
#7>(“What’s up?” is one of the most dreadful texts to get; it’s short for “Hello, I’d like you to entertain me now.”) And asking your partner question after question and resenting them when they don’t return the favor isn’t generosity; it’s social entrapment
I'm not a great texter but this resonated with me and I'd never really thought about it. It's annoying when I don't feel like texting and I just get bombarded with questions demanding a response. On the other hand I can sympathize if they want to chat and I just don't.
I feel like I've been on both sides of all the examples in this piece depending on what kind of mood I'm in
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#8I often feel like a "giver" in conversations, asking all the questions but never being given opportunities to share my own stories or viewpoint... I seek and value friends that DO ask about me, and then try to remind myself to not take it for granted, and return the favor to them! This gives some additional lens, though, to be flexible with "takers" and give them credit for putting themselves out there.
Once I realized that some people expect and are happy for you to jump in with unprompted thoughts or stories, it became easier for me to be intentional about doing so. I think I'm a lot better now than when I was younger at adapting to a wide range of conversational styles, mostly just from paying more attention to that dynamic. Do you feel like your conversational toolbox has evolved over time? :)
Ha, yes a bit! Not interrupting or talking over someone was drilled into me in childhood, but exposure to different family dynamics helped me learn that it's not a universal value, and that I can adapt and adjust my communication styles for different groups and situations.
That's still a bit of a struggle to push myself to "speak out of turn" and ensure my voice is included in a discussion.
Re: Good conversations have lots of doorknobs (2022)
#9>Givers think that conversations unfold as a series of invitations; takers think conversations unfold as a series of declarations.
I don't really understand the thesis outlined in the article. "Givers" and "takers" are defined like this, but it actually sounds like the two types of conversationalists are "actives" and "passives", where actives seek to move the conversation forward and passives let others move it forward. A giver-and-taker conversation where both participants are alternatingly active can work. The giver asks a question and the taker answers it but then adds something of their own that doesn't let the conversation grind to a halt.
Example:
A: Hey, have you heard about X? (giver, active)
B: Oh, I hate X. I think Y. (taker, active)
A: Woah, hang on. I'm not so sure about Y. (taker, active)
B: Oh, yeah? Do you think Z? (giver, active)
In my experience, the absolute worst conversations I've had were those where I felt I was the only one putting in any effort, trying to come up with topic after topic only to have them peter out in under a minute, followed by silence.
I also don't know that people are necessarily fixed in their roles, be as giver, taker, passive, or active. In fact, if I'd have to guess, an engaging conversation has the participants constantly switch roles with the flow, depending on how much they have to say on a given topic.
So I think a corollary from all this is that a conversation breaks down when an active participant switches to passive expecting the other to become active, when in fact the other person just wants to be passive, or when two passive people try to have a conversation, in which case nothing happens at all.
Re: Good conversations have lots of doorknobs (2022)
#10>(“What’s up?” is one of the most dreadful texts to get; it’s short for “Hello, I’d like you to entertain me now.”) And asking your partner question after question and resenting them when they don’t return the favor isn’t generosity; it’s social entrapment I'm not a great texter but this resonated with me and I'd never really thought about it. It's annoying when I don't feel like texting and I just get bombarded with…
And then, if you don't make any questions, they may think that you don't care enough about them. Also, if you just often share information that is interesting to you, some may think you are tedious/boring.
Socializing is really hard.