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New EU Chat Control proposal moves forward

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Re: New EU Chat Control proposal moves forward

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Post by getcrunk »

How would these types of proposals deal with foss non centralized/fully p2p messaging system? Just make them illegal?

What if the foss app has the “scanning” but can be disabled with a compile time flag

Is my email client going to have to implement this scanning if I use pgp?

Re: New EU Chat Control proposal moves forward

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Post by dmitrygr »

getcrunk wrote: post #3

How would these types of proposals deal with foss non centralized/fully p2p messaging system? Just make them illegal? What if the foss app has the “scanning” but can be disabled with a compile time flag Is my email client going to have to implement this scanning if I use pgp?

the worst (and the only) way possible: hold authors or distributors of the said software responsible: Order apple and google to remove apps, Order ISPs to block domains that host PWAs, Issue arrest warrants for authors of software that does not or cannot comply.

Re: New EU Chat Control proposal moves forward

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Post by varispeed »

The EU has been taken over by terrorists and law enforcement does nothing. People behind Chat Controls should be arrested.

These proposals are against German laws and other EU countries. It can be treated as terrorist attack attempt.

It creates psychological and physical harm, indiscriminately for ideological gain. Textbook terrorism, except done by nice people in suits and there is no blood (yet).

Re: New EU Chat Control proposal moves forward

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Post by ashanoko »

varispeed wrote: post #5

The EU has been taken over by terrorists and law enforcement does nothing. People behind Chat Controls should be arrested. These proposals are against German laws and other EU countries. It can be treated as terrorist attack attempt. It creates psychological and physical harm, indiscriminately for ideological gain. Textbook terrorism, except done by nice people in suits and there is no blood (yet).

The mass import of potential terrorists are the pretext to introduce this panopticon. Quite the play. You push your agenda, by pushing stochastic events that forward it.

Re: New EU Chat Control proposal moves forward

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Post by ryandrake »

dataking wrote: post #2

https://fightchatcontrol.eu/ As far as I understand, people using this site to contact their elected officials were instrumental in making lawmakers back down from ChatControl v2.0. Hoping the same will be true this time around.

On the contrary, it doesn't seem to have had any effect at all. Nobody actually defeated anything if it just gets re-proposed a few weeks later.

Re: New EU Chat Control proposal moves forward

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Post by pixl97 »

ryandrake wrote: post #8
dataking wrote: post #2

https://fightchatcontrol.eu/ As far as I understand, people using this site to contact their elected officials were instrumental in making lawmakers back down from ChatControl v2.0. Hoping the same will be true this time around.

On the contrary, it doesn't seem to have had any effect at all. Nobody actually defeated anything if it just gets re-proposed a few weeks later.

Ah, the US way, just keep trying to pass the bill again and again until people get tired and it eventually passes quietly.

Re: New EU Chat Control proposal moves forward

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Post by danaris »

ryandrake wrote: post #8
dataking wrote: post #2

https://fightchatcontrol.eu/ As far as I understand, people using this site to contact their elected officials were instrumental in making lawmakers back down from ChatControl v2.0. Hoping the same will be true this time around.

On the contrary, it doesn't seem to have had any effect at all. Nobody actually defeated anything if it just gets re-proposed a few weeks later.

Every time we stop it from becoming law, that is a victory.

Viewing it as anything else is actively counterproductive.

The fact that they will keep bringing it back until we have better people in the EU Parliament just means that we have to win more victories.

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