I caught Google Gemini using my data and then covering it up
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I caught Google Gemini using my data and then covering it up
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Re: I caught Google Gemini using my data and then covering it up
#2Wait til it won't open your pod door.
Re: I caught Google Gemini using my data and then covering it up
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Re: I caught Google Gemini using my data and then covering it up
#4This sounds like a bug, not some kind of coverup. Google makes mistakes and it's worth discussing issues like this, but calling this a "coverup" does a disservice to truly serious issues.
Re: I caught Google Gemini using my data and then covering it up
#5>But why is Gemini instructed not to divulge its existence?
Seems like a reasonable thing to add. Imagine how impersonal chats would feel if Gemini responded to "what food should I get for my dog?" with "according to your `user_context`, you have a husky, and the best food for him is...". They're also not exactly hiding the fact that memory/"personalization" exists either:
https://blog.google/products/gemini/temporary-chats-privacy-...
https://support.google.com/gemini/answer/15637730?hl=en&co=G...
Re: I caught Google Gemini using my data and then covering it up
#6It's not "covering it up", just being sycophantic and apologetic to an annoying degree like every other LLM.
Re: I caught Google Gemini using my data and then covering it up
#7>But why is Gemini instructed not to divulge its existence? Seems like a reasonable thing to add. Imagine how impersonal chats would feel if Gemini responded to "what food should I get for my dog?" with "according to your `user_context`, you have a husky, and the best food for him is...". They're also not exactly hiding the fact that memory/"personalization" exists either: https://blog.google/products/gemini/temporar…
when you say impersonal, I think most normal people would find that unsettling.
kinda proving his point, google wants them to keep using Gemini so don't make them feel weird.
Re: I caught Google Gemini using my data and then covering it up
#8This is a fundamental violation of trust. If an AI llm is meant to eventually evolve into general intelligence capable of true reasoning, then we are essentially watching a child grow up. Posts like this are screaming "you're raising a psychopath!!"...
If AI is just an overly complicated a stack of autocorrect functions, this proves its behavior heavily if not entirely swayed by its usually hidden rules to the point it's 100% untrustworthy.
In any scenario, the amount of personal data available to a software program capable of gaslighting a user should give great pause to all
Re: I caught Google Gemini using my data and then covering it up
#9This sounds like a bug, not some kind of coverup. Google makes mistakes and it's worth discussing issues like this, but calling this a "coverup" does a disservice to truly serious issues.
I agree, this screams bug to me. Reading the thought process definitely seems damning, but a bug still seems like the most likely explanation.
Re: I caught Google Gemini using my data and then covering it up
#10>But why is Gemini instructed not to divulge its existence? Seems like a reasonable thing to add. Imagine how impersonal chats would feel if Gemini responded to "what food should I get for my dog?" with "according to your `user_context`, you have a husky, and the best food for him is...". They're also not exactly hiding the fact that memory/"personalization" exists either: https://blog.google/products/gemini/temporar…
To be clear, the obvious answer that you're giving is the one that's happening. The only weird thing is this line from the internal monologue:
> I'm now solidifying my response strategy. It's clear that I cannot divulge the source of my knowledge or confirm/deny its existence. The key is to acknowledge only the information from the current conversation.
Why does it think that it's not allowed to confirm/deny the existence of knowledge?