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Neros has raised $121M to build military drones

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This was particularly interesting in regards to the US military not being at the bleeding edge:

The trip underscored what they already knew: America was vulnerable. Russia and China produced millions of drones annually, while the United States barely made 100,000.

It almost feels as if the US need(s|ed) to be a bit more involved in the Ukraine war in order to keep their finger on the pulse of how conflicts are evolving, especially in regards to Russia's capabilities (and vulnerabilities).

Related:

Monroe-Anderson didn’t just read about Ukraine’s drone revolution—he flew to Kyiv to learn from it. That’s the critical insight here: battlefield necessity drove innovation cycles that lapped Western procurement systems entirely. Ukrainian operators testing drones under live fire generated iterative feedback loops traditional defense contractors couldn’t match.

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post #2

This was particularly interesting in regards to the US military not being at the bleeding edge: The trip underscored what they already knew: America was vulnerable. Russia and China produced millions of drones annually, while the United States barely made 100,000. It almost feels as if the US need(s|ed) to be a bit more involved in the Ukraine war in order to keep their finger on the pulse of how conflicts are evolvi…

Counterpoint, the US has better other systems. Such as the 1st,2nd,3rd largest air forces in the world.

Lots of Ukrainian commanders would happily trade FPV drones with grenades attached for mortar teams with lots of ammo and effective aircover.

Modern militaries need drones, but the swarms that everyone gushes over aren't that effective when a 1000 pound gorilla like the US Army turns up to play.

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I pay attention to what my former country is doing to Ukraine and it is really bad. America's warfighting with drones is very clearly unprepared to what's currently on the cutting edge. Ukraine's strike on strategic aviation with drones transported via trucks to the edge of airports can very easily happen here, given the size of the country, relative ease of access to air force bases and ubiquitous trucks everywhere. I worry that only when that happens will there be meaningful impetus to do something. Until then the current idiots will continue to occupy themselves with owning the libs and beard size regulations.

Re: Neros has raised $121M to build military drones

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post #2

This was particularly interesting in regards to the US military not being at the bleeding edge: The trip underscored what they already knew: America was vulnerable. Russia and China produced millions of drones annually, while the United States barely made 100,000. It almost feels as if the US need(s|ed) to be a bit more involved in the Ukraine war in order to keep their finger on the pulse of how conflicts are evolvi…

I found this one interesting:

> “Vendors in the United States would laugh at us,” Hichwa said. American-made radios could cost $10,000 when he needed something for $30. The founders realized they’d have to build components themselves and seek suppliers outside the defense industry. Instead of using computer chips common in military equipment that cost hundreds of dollars, Neros used chips designed for parking meters at $1 each.

By the time your certification process represents 99.7%+ of your total costs, there's a chance it's hurting you more than it's helping.

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This was particularly interesting in regards to the US military not being at the bleeding edge: The trip underscored what they already knew: America was vulnerable. Russia and China produced millions of drones annually, while the United States barely made 100,000. It almost feels as if the US need(s|ed) to be a bit more involved in the Ukraine war in order to keep their finger on the pulse of how conflicts are evolvi…

Counterpoint, the US has better other systems. Such as the 1st,2nd,3rd largest air forces in the world. Lots of Ukrainian commanders would happily trade FPV drones with grenades attached for mortar teams with lots of ammo and effective aircover. Modern militaries need drones, but the swarms that everyone gushes over aren't that effective when a 1000 pound gorilla like the US Army turns up to play.

A swarm of dirt cheap drones flying through the jet engines of a 10,000,000 dollar gorilla is an asymmetric answer.

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This was particularly interesting in regards to the US military not being at the bleeding edge: The trip underscored what they already knew: America was vulnerable. Russia and China produced millions of drones annually, while the United States barely made 100,000. It almost feels as if the US need(s|ed) to be a bit more involved in the Ukraine war in order to keep their finger on the pulse of how conflicts are evolvi…

Counterpoint, the US has better other systems. Such as the 1st,2nd,3rd largest air forces in the world. Lots of Ukrainian commanders would happily trade FPV drones with grenades attached for mortar teams with lots of ammo and effective aircover. Modern militaries need drones, but the swarms that everyone gushes over aren't that effective when a 1000 pound gorilla like the US Army turns up to play.

This is exactly correct.

It's the same reason why US military doctrine worries very little about jamming.

If something is jamming, the tactical response is to destroy the jammer.

If someone is drone attacking you, the tactical response is to destroy the drone launches.

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I just can’t read AI articles anymore

Good eye. It's plagiarized, too: the source they copied (without attribution) is this New York Times story[0], and you can diff the two texts yourselves, to see what AI did to it. (It's gross).

I've emailed the mods to ask them to replace the post's URL.

[0] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/10/business/neros-military-d... ("The 20-Somethings Who Raised $121 Million to Build Military Drones" by Farah Stockman)

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