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Ask HN: Do you negotiate salary in this job market?
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Re: Ask HN: Do you negotiate salary in this job market?
#2Depends on your financial situation, if you have a job, and how many offers you have.
Always worth thinking about your alternative to any job offer.
Re: Ask HN: Do you negotiate salary in this job market?
#3mooreds' comment is the gist of it, resources below to help.
They also wrote a nice post on batna: https://www.mooreds.com/wordpress/archives/2839
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Re: Ask HN: Do you negotiate salary in this job market?
#41. Always negotiate
2. Read this book: Never Split the Difference
NOTE: Understand the difference between negotiations and bluffing.
Re: Ask HN: Do you negotiate salary in this job market?
#5Always ask. Worst case, they say no. Best case, you compound that extra 5–10% for the rest of your career. You already got the job if you are negotiating salary, they wont take it away.
Re: Ask HN: Do you negotiate salary in this job market?
#6Salary negotiation is dependent on supply and demand. If there's a high demand for your niche skill, and few people have that skill, then you can negotiate - you're a price maker. Otherwise, if the demand is low and the supply is high then you don't have much room to negotiate - you're a price taker.
The problem is overgeneralization. Even in a "bad" job market there are always jobs where the demand is high and the supply is low. Those people are in good shape.
Re: Ask HN: Do you negotiate salary in this job market?
#71. Always negotiate 2. Read this book: Never Split the Difference NOTE: Understand the difference between negotiations and bluffing.
Thanks for the book recommendation! Heard about it a few times now so I'll check it out.
Re: Ask HN: Do you negotiate salary in this job market?
#8Always negotiate.
The only effect the job market has on negotiations is it can lower the upper limit of what you can get out of it. But you should always negotiate, because if you don't, you'll almost always be getting less than you're worth regardless of market conditions.
Re: Ask HN: Do you negotiate salary in this job market?
#9Always ask. Worst case, they say no. Best case, you compound that extra 5–10% for the rest of your career. You already got the job if you are negotiating salary, they wont take it away.
> You already got the job if you are negotiating salary, they wont take it away.
Exactly this.
In all my decades in the industry, both during up cycles and down cycles, I've never had anyone respond to negotiation by saying "never mind, the deal is off". The worst case is that they'll say "our offer is not subject to negotiations, take it or leave it."
Re: Ask HN: Do you negotiate salary in this job market?
#10what you negotiate to should change w the market, but not whether you negotiate. employers know what the market is too and they always negotiate.