Next.js 16

Everyone like to shit on node/nextjs ecosystem. Developers are putting real effort to improve though. JS tooling is moving to rust, node is adding high level APIs so we should need lesser third part libraries.

Re: Next.js 16

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Post by jemiluv8 » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 8:46 AM UTC

I suppose they are still shipping these things. With mcp integration and bluh, bluh, bluh. I marvel always at how much has changed and also how little has changed in building websites. My verdict: little has changed on the web. We just have too much commercial interest and a bunch of cs grads that need to do something with their theoretical skills.

Re: Next.js 16

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Post by pjmlp » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 9:13 AM UTC

akmittal wrote: post #5

tipiirai wrote: post #2

I’m guessing 400MB for a blank Hello, World app

Everyone like to shit on node/nextjs ecosystem. Developers are putting real effort to improve though. JS tooling is moving to rust, node is adding high level APIs so we should need lesser third part libraries.

I have an idea, also replace JS with Rust, don't stop at the tooling.

Kind of interesting how the scripting languages that were all the range in 2010 as replacement for Java, C#, are now being rewritten in Rust, Go, C++, Dart after crumbling in performance issues.

Re: Next.js 16

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Post by mrsmrtss » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 9:54 AM UTC

pjmlp wrote: post #7

akmittal wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone like to shit on node/nextjs ecosystem. Developers are putting real effort to improve though. JS tooling is moving to rust, node is adding high level APIs so we should need lesser third part libraries.

I have an idea, also replace JS with Rust, don't stop at the tooling. Kind of interesting how the scripting languages that were all the range in 2010 as replacement for Java, C#, are now being rewritten in Rust, Go, C++, Dart after crumbling in performance issues.

Why are you excluding C# and Java here? There are certainly many rewrites to these languages, but this kind of rewrites are "boring" for the crowds here and don't get the spotlight. IMO building web services with Rust, C++ is a almost always a wrong choice.

Re: Next.js 16

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Post by pjmlp » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 10:15 AM UTC

mrsmrtss wrote: post #8

pjmlp wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have an idea, also replace JS with Rust, don't stop at the tooling. Kind of interesting how the scripting languages that were all the range in 2010 as replacement for Java, C#, are now being rewritten in Rust, Go, C++, Dart after crumbling in performance issues.

Why are you excluding C# and Java here? There are certainly many rewrites to these languages, but this kind of rewrites are "boring" for the crowds here and don't get the spotlight. IMO building web services with Rust, C++ is a almost always a wrong choice.

Because that isn't what cool kids in JavaScript ecosystem are flocking to, that is their parents languages.

Myself I will keep using C# and Java as long as I can in the middle of all this AI craziness, see my profile.

Re: Next.js 16

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Post by brazukadev » Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 11:33 AM UTC

akmittal wrote: post #5

tipiirai wrote: post #2

I’m guessing 400MB for a blank Hello, World app

Everyone like to shit on node/nextjs ecosystem. Developers are putting real effort to improve though. JS tooling is moving to rust, node is adding high level APIs so we should need lesser third part libraries.

There're people working on all bad software, scammers also work hard. We should not reward them in anyway tho.