Live data from Hacker News

Apple loses German patent court case

bbc.co.uk

1–10 of 53 posts

Re: Apple loses German patent court case

#2
> In a separate case being heard in Munich, the court backed Apple's claim that Motorola had infringed its patent on what happened when users scrolled to the end of a page, document or list - a technology known as "overscroll bounce" or "rubber banding".

That is also what the Chrome browser does..

Re: Apple loses German patent court case

#3
post #2

> In a separate case being heard in Munich, the court backed Apple's claim that Motorola had infringed its patent on what happened when users scrolled to the end of a page, document or list - a technology known as "overscroll bounce" or "rubber banding". That is also what the Chrome browser does..

"...in a smartphone" is the new "...on a computer".

Re: Apple loses German patent court case

#5
post #4

This is seriously good news. I want open source to eventually win the war.

Unfortunately, Android is not really open source :(

Edit: If you think this statement is not true, please look at Debian or any other REAL open source project compare it to Android. Android uses Open-Source as a marketing term, not in it's original meaning ... (or at least in how I understand open source)

Re: Apple loses German patent court case

#6
post #5
post #4

This is seriously good news. I want open source to eventually win the war.

Unfortunately, Android is not really open source :( Edit: If you think this statement is not true, please look at Debian or any other REAL open source project compare it to Android. Android uses Open-Source as a marketing term, not in it's original meaning ... (or at least in how I understand open source)

Really? The last time I checked I was able to download the source code and do something with it on my own. Could you please justify your statement?

Re: Apple loses German patent court case

#7
post #6
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, Android is not really open source :( Edit: If you think this statement is not true, please look at Debian or any other REAL open source project compare it to Android. Android uses Open-Source as a marketing term, not in it's original meaning ... (or at least in how I understand open source)

Really? The last time I checked I was able to download the source code and do something with it on my own. Could you please justify your statement?

Because Google and everyone else in the Android ecosystem* don't care.

*EDIT: I don't mean third party developers when I said 'ecosystem'. I mean the manufacturers.

They're in it for a profit like everyone else, and "open" is just a good a marketing strategy toward tech-minded people as any other. Consumers, on the other hand, still do not care.

Re: Apple loses German patent court case

#8
post #5
post #4

This is seriously good news. I want open source to eventually win the war.

Unfortunately, Android is not really open source :( Edit: If you think this statement is not true, please look at Debian or any other REAL open source project compare it to Android. Android uses Open-Source as a marketing term, not in it's original meaning ... (or at least in how I understand open source)

I stand that it is: http://source.android.com/

Some people like to state that gmail, maps, the play store and other proprietary Google bits are not open source and that is true, but those are not android. Those are separate apps.

Some like to claim that since Google gives vendors early access to the source, this somehow makes it not open. For those releases, at that specific date in time, maybe so. But, the source is released and generally pretty soon after phones start shipping (honeycomb was a different story and Google's statements on the matter have been proven to be true with the new combined tablet and phone releases).

Look, if android wasn't open source, projets like this would be a lot less successful: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/

Re: Apple loses German patent court case

#9
post #7
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? The last time I checked I was able to download the source code and do something with it on my own. Could you please justify your statement?

Because Google and everyone else in the Android ecosystem* don't care. *EDIT: I don't mean third party developers when I said 'ecosystem'. I mean the manufacturers. They're in it for a profit like everyone else, and "open" is just a good a marketing strategy toward tech-minded people as any other. Consumers, on the other hand, still do not care.

But why should it matter whether they are in it for the money or not. The fact of the matter is that their source is open and people can take it and do things with it.

Re: Apple loses German patent court case

#10
post #7
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? The last time I checked I was able to download the source code and do something with it on my own. Could you please justify your statement?

Because Google and everyone else in the Android ecosystem* don't care. *EDIT: I don't mean third party developers when I said 'ecosystem'. I mean the manufacturers. They're in it for a profit like everyone else, and "open" is just a good a marketing strategy toward tech-minded people as any other. Consumers, on the other hand, still do not care.

That's not what the definition of "Open" is.
Post reply on HN