Migrating from AWS to Hetzner
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Migrating from AWS to Hetzner
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Re: Migrating from AWS to Hetzner
#2Yup. It's very good for the ecosystem for AWS to have good competition.
Amazon gets far too greedy- particularly bad when you need egress.
Also an "amazon core" is like 1/8th of a physical cpu core.
Re: Migrating from AWS to Hetzner
#3Best feature of (some) the dedicated servers Hetzner offers is the unmetered bandwidth. I'm hosting a couple of image-heavy websites (mostly modding related) and since moving to Hetzner I sleep much better knowing I'll pay the same price every single month, and have been for the ~3 years I've been a happy Hetzner customer.
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#5Yup. It's very good for the ecosystem for AWS to have good competition. Amazon gets far too greedy- particularly bad when you need egress. Also an "amazon core" is like 1/8th of a physical cpu core.
Using a dedicated server for the first time after using VPSes or similar since learning programming and infrastructure is like a whole new world. Suddenly, you feel like the application is running in molasses, and the whole idea of "We need 10 VPS instances" seems so stupid...
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#6I use Hetzner for this reason, but there are caveats. They're great but their uptime isn't as good as AWS and they don't have great region coverage. I strongly advise people to pair them with Cloudflare. Use Hetzner for your core with K8s, and use R2/D1/KV with Container Durable Objects to add edge coprocessing. I also like to shard customer data to individual DOs, this takes a ton of scaling pressure off your data layer, while being more secure/private.
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#7This is also what we did at my company.
We kept most smaller-scale, stateless services in AWS but migrated databases and high-scale / high-performance services to bare metal servers.
Backups are stored in S3 so we still benefit from their availability.
Performance is much higher thanks to physically attached SSDs and DDR5 on-die RAM.
Costs are drastically lower and for much larger server sizes which means we are no getting stressed about eventually needing to scale up our RDS / EC2 costs.
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#8Yup. It's very good for the ecosystem for AWS to have good competition. Amazon gets far too greedy- particularly bad when you need egress. Also an "amazon core" is like 1/8th of a physical cpu core.
My favorite Jeff Bezos quote is one that applies very much to AWS: "your margin is my opportunity".
Clearly when Amazon realised the enormous potential in AWS, they scrapped that principle. But the idea behind it - that an organisation used to fat margins will not be able to adapt in the face of a competitor built from the ground to live of razor thing margins - still applies.
AWS is ripe for the picking. They "can't" drop prices much, because their big competitors have similar margins, and a price war with them would devastate the earnings of all of them no matter how much extra market share they were to win.
The challenge is the enormous mindshare they have, and how many people are emotionally invested even in believing AWS is actually cost effective.
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#9https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44038591
Less biased view of "Hetzner on HN": https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... (skipping all comments from this submission)
In the end, Hetzner is a provider of "cheap but not 100% uptime" infrastructure, probably why it's so cheap in the first place.
As every other provider, if you want 100% uptime (or getting close to it), you really need at least N+1 instances of everything, as every hosting provider end up fucking something up, sooner or later.
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#10You got me with the title and I was curious at first but then I got to the part where it shows the bill and realized this is just toy project.