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Effect of the inflows of immigrants on European workers’ careers (2013) [pdf]

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Re: Effect of the inflows of immigrants on European workers’ careers (2013) [pdf]

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TL;DR Immigrants arrive, natives move up the food chain to better jobs rather than becoming unemployed. Because it is a published paper and therefore sciencey, your anecdotes count for nothing.

I am curious about this, are there other studies done that suggest the opposite?

Re: Effect of the inflows of immigrants on European workers’ careers (2013) [pdf]

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TL;DR Immigrants arrive, natives move up the food chain to better jobs rather than becoming unemployed. Because it is a published paper and therefore sciencey, your anecdotes count for nothing.

2013.

Not sure it is still happening in 2025 judging by the reactions of natives lately.

Re: Effect of the inflows of immigrants on European workers’ careers (2013) [pdf]

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post #4

TL;DR Immigrants arrive, natives move up the food chain to better jobs rather than becoming unemployed. Because it is a published paper and therefore sciencey, your anecdotes count for nothing.

2013. Not sure it is still happening in 2025 judging by the reactions of natives lately.

More recent papers: https://www.nber.org/papers/w32389(2015-2016 Germany), https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/36-28-0001/2024003/artic... Canada), https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S017626802... USA). Overall, recent economic evidence suggests that immigrant workers, on average, enhance the opportunities and incomes of native workers.

Re: Effect of the inflows of immigrants on European workers’ careers (2013) [pdf]

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>period of 1995-2001

That time basically only some intro-European migrations happened: Germans repatriating from the recently dissolved USSR, other Europeans moving back and forth, maybe some refugees from the Balkans.

Interesting stuff started happening much, much later.

Also what with this line spacing? It renders the paper nigh unreadable!

Re: Effect of the inflows of immigrants on European workers’ careers (2013) [pdf]

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2013. Not sure it is still happening in 2025 judging by the reactions of natives lately.

More recent papers: https://www.nber.org/papers/w32389(2015-2016 Germany), https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/36-28-0001/2024003/artic... Canada), https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S017626802... USA). Overall, recent economic evidence suggests that immigrant workers, on average, enhance the opportunities and incomes of native workers.

Is it even possible to establish the direction of causality? Like if you compare areas, then the areas with more immigrants usually see more economic growth. But, also, areas with economic growth is what attracts immigrants. I can’t think of a way to tease those apart. Is there one?

Re: Effect of the inflows of immigrants on European workers’ careers (2013) [pdf]

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>period of 1995-2001 That time basically only some intro-European migrations happened: Germans repatriating from the recently dissolved USSR, other Europeans moving back and forth, maybe some refugees from the Balkans. Interesting stuff started happening much, much later. Also what with this line spacing? It renders the paper nigh unreadable!

So not only nigh not worth reading...

Re: Effect of the inflows of immigrants on European workers’ careers (2013) [pdf]

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>period of 1995-2001 That time basically only some intro-European migrations happened: Germans repatriating from the recently dissolved USSR, other Europeans moving back and forth, maybe some refugees from the Balkans. Interesting stuff started happening much, much later. Also what with this line spacing? It renders the paper nigh unreadable!

Once upon a time, editors requested submissions in single-column, double-spaced form because they (or the in-house writers) would actually mark on the printed-out paper. Mysterious glyphs, squiggly arrows, and indecipherable handwritten text would be inscribed between the lines in red ink. Many journal preprints from that era are double-spaced.

Even more mysterious are the arcane notations such as “TABLE 1 ABOUT HERE” with the actual table/figure contents placed at the end of the paper. Understandable when authors provided hardcopy figures for photoreproduction, baffling when the entire submission was generated with LaTeX or Word.

Re: Effect of the inflows of immigrants on European workers’ careers (2013) [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

More recent papers: https://www.nber.org/papers/w32389(2015-2016 Germany), https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/36-28-0001/2024003/artic... Canada), https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S017626802... USA). Overall, recent economic evidence suggests that immigrant workers, on average, enhance the opportunities and incomes of native workers.

Is it even possible to establish the direction of causality? Like if you compare areas, then the areas with more immigrants usually see more economic growth. But, also, areas with economic growth is what attracts immigrants. I can’t think of a way to tease those apart. Is there one?

This is usually what's known in Econometrics as Identification. Any applied econ paper written in the last two or three decades has at least a short section discussing causality and making the case for its identification strategy.
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