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Re: US Military struggling to deploy AI weapons

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The link doesn't work. Also missiles already use AI to know where they are, so I'm skeptical that the headline is true.

That's the previous generations of AI which has been rebranded to "machine vision" and "machine learning" rather than "AI" due to the numerous hype crashes making the term AI unpalatable for a generation.

It's materially different than "Generative AI" which is the current trend of AI hype, which is what I think the "AI" in the title is referring to.

Re: US Military struggling to deploy AI weapons

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post #3

The link doesn't work. Also missiles already use AI to know where they are, so I'm skeptical that the headline is true.

That's the previous generations of AI which has been rebranded to "machine vision" and "machine learning" rather than "AI" due to the numerous hype crashes making the term AI unpalatable for a generation. It's materially different than "Generative AI" which is the current trend of AI hype, which is what I think the "AI" in the title is referring to.

Unlikely to be Gen AI. The military applications of missiles that can generate LinkedIn posts about B2B marketing as they descend on their targets are probably quite limited.

Re: US Military struggling to deploy AI weapons

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the previous generations of AI which has been rebranded to "machine vision" and "machine learning" rather than "AI" due to the numerous hype crashes making the term AI unpalatable for a generation. It's materially different than "Generative AI" which is the current trend of AI hype, which is what I think the "AI" in the title is referring to.

Unlikely to be Gen AI. The military applications of missiles that can generate LinkedIn posts about B2B marketing as they descend on their targets are probably quite limited.

You’re not using your imagination enough. Warfare is more than just munitions.

Re: US Military struggling to deploy AI weapons

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlikely to be Gen AI. The military applications of missiles that can generate LinkedIn posts about B2B marketing as they descend on their targets are probably quite limited.

You’re not using your imagination enough. Warfare is more than just munitions.

Yes, I see great potential in injecting your AI into the enemies communication system. Being able to have an AI try and persuade your enemy to do things in your favor, confuse them, or censor information all processed in real time and potentially at scale of the enemy's entire army is very powerful. It could even take a passive role and serve as pure intelligence gathering of the current state of things.

Re: US Military struggling to deploy AI weapons

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlikely to be Gen AI. The military applications of missiles that can generate LinkedIn posts about B2B marketing as they descend on their targets are probably quite limited.

You’re not using your imagination enough. Warfare is more than just munitions.

In this instance the article does say "An ambitious Pentagon plan to field thousands of cutting-edge drones to prepare for a potential conflict with China has [...] struggled to find software that can successfully control large numbers of drones, made by different companies, working in coordination to find and potentially strike a target—a key to making the Replicator vision work."

So these particular "AI weapons" would appear to be munitions.

Re: US Military struggling to deploy AI weapons

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The link doesn't work. Also missiles already use AI to know where they are, so I'm skeptical that the headline is true.

The link works for me.

> The Pentagon has also struggled to find software that can successfully control large numbers of drones, made by different companies, working in coordination to find and potentially strike a target—a key to making the Replicator vision work.

So the software can't work with arbitrary drones. The article also talks about the high cost of some of the drones.

> Of the dozen or so autonomous systems acquired for Replicator, three were unfinished or existed only as a concept at the time they were selected, according to people with knowledge of the matter. Among Replicator’s shortcomings, officials said, is that the Defense Innovation Unit was directed to buy drones that had older technology, and it didn’t rigorously test platforms and software before acquiring them, other people familiar with the matter said.

So the military bought promises and basically funded some research. That's fine imo, they do that all the time, but their expectations did not align with results in these cases. And they didn't set good requirements for the platforms.

I expect the hopes for AI-driven drones with the ability to target individual humans by identity is probably not quite here yet. You have to get around jamming, fit any tech on a small platform, and it has to be cheap and disposable. And you don't actually want "AI", because you don't want it to mistakenly kill civilians, you want highly accurate computer vision.

In Russia and Ukraine, they are manually piloting drones that are attached by fiberoptic cable. It's cheap and effective, but requires a human pilot. At least for now, I would guess this is a much more effective (in results and cost) way to go. A human can pilot dozens of disposable drones in a day that drop their payload and are then discarded.

Re: US Military struggling to deploy AI weapons

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post #3

The link doesn't work. Also missiles already use AI to know where they are, so I'm skeptical that the headline is true.

That's the previous generations of AI which has been rebranded to "machine vision" and "machine learning" rather than "AI" due to the numerous hype crashes making the term AI unpalatable for a generation. It's materially different than "Generative AI" which is the current trend of AI hype, which is what I think the "AI" in the title is referring to.

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