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EU age verification app not planning desktop support

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Re: EU age verification app not planning desktop support

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This is a great example of how this whole requirement hasn't been properly thought out.

> Desktop support is not currently within the project's scope.

What I would like to take from this is that, by their own definition, desktop apps are out of scope for Age Verification. So does that mean we will see a return of the 'desktop applications' instead of everything being a web service ?

One can dream perhaps. Until then adults who are willing to 'do what they're told' will be the ones who are inconvenienced by this constantly.

Edit: Also this will completely disable any new phone OS' being developed. Why would anyone bother when you can't verify your wallet to do anything online.

Re: EU age verification app not planning desktop support

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post #2

This is outrageous and doesn't make sense

Depends on whom you ask. Google introducing the developer verification and sideloading on iOS being even bigger hurdle, they want to stay in control on what you use and they want to make sure you don't have possibility to use anything they explicitly permit. Normal desktop is unfortunately too open for that. Discourage people to use desktops and make rely on controlled gardens even more.

Re: EU age verification app not planning desktop support

#5
This is hardware attestation in a nutshell: a double edged sword, and a sharp one at that.

The biggest issue is that the attestation hardware and the application client is the same device with the same manufacturer, who also happens to have a slight conflict of interest between monetizing customers and preserving any sort of privacy.

IMHO the pro-attestation forces are so overwhelming that we should all cherish the moment while we have anything open left.

Re: EU age verification app not planning desktop support

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post #3

This is a great example of how this whole requirement hasn't been properly thought out. > Desktop support is not currently within the project's scope. What I would like to take from this is that, by their own definition, desktop apps are out of scope for Age Verification. So does that mean we will see a return of the 'desktop applications' instead of everything being a web service ? One can dream perhaps. Until then…

> oes that mean we will see a return of the 'desktop applications'...?

No. It's still required by law, which means that your desktop application will require some interaction with your smartphone.

Re: EU age verification app not planning desktop support

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post #3

This is a great example of how this whole requirement hasn't been properly thought out. > Desktop support is not currently within the project's scope. What I would like to take from this is that, by their own definition, desktop apps are out of scope for Age Verification. So does that mean we will see a return of the 'desktop applications' instead of everything being a web service ? One can dream perhaps. Until then…

This read more like "we thought pc was a dead relic of the past" sadly

Re: EU age verification app not planning desktop support

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post #2

This is outrageous and doesn't make sense

It makes total sense. The whole point is to punish self-respecting people who use freedom preserving operating systems and treat them as second class citizens.

See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44704645

Re: EU age verification app not planning desktop support

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post #5

This is hardware attestation in a nutshell: a double edged sword, and a sharp one at that. The biggest issue is that the attestation hardware and the application client is the same device with the same manufacturer, who also happens to have a slight conflict of interest between monetizing customers and preserving any sort of privacy. IMHO the pro-attestation forces are so overwhelming that we should all cherish the m…

This could be a boon to all sorts of new kind of hardware though (wishful-thinking mode)

Re: EU age verification app not planning desktop support

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post #6
post #3

This is a great example of how this whole requirement hasn't been properly thought out. > Desktop support is not currently within the project's scope. What I would like to take from this is that, by their own definition, desktop apps are out of scope for Age Verification. So does that mean we will see a return of the 'desktop applications' instead of everything being a web service ? One can dream perhaps. Until then…

> oes that mean we will see a return of the 'desktop applications'...? No. It's still required by law, which means that your desktop application will require some interaction with your smartphone.

Further forcing everybody to have their phone on person at all times
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