Mass Firings for Charlie Kirk Comments Appear Coordinated
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Re: Mass Firings for Charlie Kirk Comments Appear Coordinated
#2Not the firings, but the effort to pressure employers.
And it's really not in doubt; the coordination is real and public. I have seen many conservative pundits be very open about it (and preemptively engage with the "isn't this the same cancel culture you used to hate" argument).
My thoughts on the legitimacy of this, from another submission: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45234875
Re: Mass Firings for Charlie Kirk Comments Appear Coordinated
#3Not the firings, but the effort to pressure employers. And it's really not in doubt; the coordination is real and public. I have seen many conservative pundits be very open about it (and preemptively engage with the "isn't this the same cancel culture you used to hate" argument). My thoughts on the legitimacy of this, from another submission: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45234875
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Re: Mass Firings for Charlie Kirk Comments Appear Coordinated
#4Says a lot that the very first person listed on that 'charliesmurders.com' site isn't condemning or mocking Kirk at all but just expressing anxiety about the likelihood of a political backlash following his death. Even the people on 4chan were expressing confusion about this and saying her remarks seemed wholly innocuous.
Re: Mass Firings for Charlie Kirk Comments Appear Coordinated
#5Not the firings, but the effort to pressure employers. And it's really not in doubt; the coordination is real and public. I have seen many conservative pundits be very open about it (and preemptively engage with the "isn't this the same cancel culture you used to hate" argument). My thoughts on the legitimacy of this, from another submission: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45234875
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Except there weren't really any mass harassment, rape and death threat, and firing campaigns being coordinated against ordinary people for not sufficiently mourning someone. Most of the "cancel culture" stuff was overblown nonsense, the few real events were against massive public figures credibly accused of heinous things like Weinstein.
Pretending this is in any way equivalent betrays either an intense naivete or a supporter of this pre-pogrom behavior.
Re: Mass Firings for Charlie Kirk Comments Appear Coordinated
#6Not the firings, but the effort to pressure employers. And it's really not in doubt; the coordination is real and public. I have seen many conservative pundits be very open about it (and preemptively engage with the "isn't this the same cancel culture you used to hate" argument). My thoughts on the legitimacy of this, from another submission: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45234875
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What an appalling comment. You can’t possibly justify what you’re doing so you pretend it’s something “the left” did first. Did the left deport students because they wrote an op-ed article, or went to a protest? Did senior administration officials call for jailing opponents for thought crimes?
Re: Mass Firings for Charlie Kirk Comments Appear Coordinated
#7Says a lot that the very first person listed on that 'charliesmurders.com' site isn't condemning or mocking Kirk at all but just expressing anxiety about the likelihood of a political backlash following his death. Even the people on 4chan were expressing confusion about this and saying her remarks seemed wholly innocuous.
Are you saying they're just harassing people they don't like?
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
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What an appalling comment. You can’t possibly justify what you’re doing so you pretend it’s something “the left” did first. Did the left deport students because they wrote an op-ed article, or went to a protest? Did senior administration officials call for jailing opponents for thought crimes?
You are correct in your assumption that I am a conservative, but I abhor the lunacy of the MAGA right as much as anyone. But the fact remains that the roots of this behavior are in men like Foucault and Marcuse, who were squarely on the left.
Re: Mass Firings for Charlie Kirk Comments Appear Coordinated
#9Not the firings, but the effort to pressure employers. And it's really not in doubt; the coordination is real and public. I have seen many conservative pundits be very open about it (and preemptively engage with the "isn't this the same cancel culture you used to hate" argument). My thoughts on the legitimacy of this, from another submission: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45234875
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Ah yes, the dangerously effective leftist power-grabbing playbook. This is the playbook with accomplishments like:
- Losing two Supreme Court nominations because the opposing party said so, refusing to pack the court in response (also see: next bullet)
- Failing to make general legislative progress by having two critical senators in their party refuse to caucus with them, with both eventually leaving the party entirely
- Controlling less than half of state legislatures in the whole country, less than half of all state governors
- Running unpopular candidates for president 3 times in a row and losing 2/3 easily winnable campaigns over it
- Allowing their unpopular presidential candidate to decide to drop out at the last minute rather than convincing him to do it with enough time to do a proper primary and grassroots campaigning
- Sitting around for years instead of expediting prosecution of Trump for obvious crimes (e.g., classified documents case, Jan. 9 insurrection case) before he could return to office
- Tossing a bucket of quicksand onto voter enthusiasm by splitting the party over the Israel/Gaza conflict and other wedge issues
I actually hope the Republican Party adopts the left's "power-grabbing playbook" so that we can go back to having Democrats in control. Who knows, we might even get universal healthcare - last time, a public option was blocked by a single independent congressperson, which is too much power for the power-grabbing leftists to handle!
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Except there weren't really any mass harassment, rape and death threat, and firing campaigns being coordinated against ordinary people for not sufficiently mourning someone. Most of the "cancel culture" stuff was overblown nonsense, the few real events were against massive public figures credibly accused of heinous things like Weinstein. Pretending this is in any way equivalent betrays either an intense naivete or a…
What about the stuff around George Floyd. Weren't people accosted and forced to kneel down and repent?
e.g. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8664345/Aggressive-...
https://twitter.com/i/status/1267283980514201610
https://twitter.com/i/status/1269043437275435016
Etc.
Maybe some of them knelt voluntarily. But what would have happened if they hadn't. To me at the time there seemed to be a lot of social pressure to "kneel" and accept the narrative and the will of the mob.