All vibe coding tools are selling a get rich quick scheme
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Re: All vibe coding tools are selling a get rich quick scheme
#2I'm sure some do. But I can't imagine something like Kiro(not an endorsement) would market itself with vibe coding, since its whole point is methodical spec driven development.
Was it perhaps author's wishful thinking?
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#3Most people who vibe code will never make anything meaningful.
Low effort in -> low effort out
I can actually code so no point in vibing.
To vibe means to never look at the code, where is the fun in that?
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#4I sit on a few indie hacker rooms with folks that slurped up the vibe coding koolaid immediately and they've been posting about their 100x output for over a year now - but none of them have shipped anything remotely successful - so I think at least anecdotally I somewhat agree.
I also just overall haven't seen a huge influx of new and useful apps and websites as you'd expect based on how tech leaders are talking about the virtues of these new tools.
I don't think AI has really found it's niche yet, and I think it's going to be much subtler than most people think, it's going to be the tools that integrate features like translations and summarization and speech to text in ways that are seamless that end up sticking - all of this other noise is just marketing hype.
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#5Everyone non-technical I know who vibe coded either ran into a bug they couldn't fix or abandoned their project.
I would love to see Lovable.dev's financials, I think they're running the classic low retention, high marketing dollar consumer playbook and are burning cash fast. Base44 seems to do the same thing after getting acquired by Wix, I'm seeing more and more of their ads.
As someone technical, vibe coding makes me feel disconnected from my product and feel like I don't know what's going on. I eventually just need to dive back into the code and find many things I need to change myself.
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#6I have been so discouraged by the way that web3 crypto hucksters pounced on vibe-coding.
I truly enjoy programming with AI, it is my favorite hobby by a mile. I'm also happy to say that, for now, I get to capture some of the productivity increase for myself while my employer catches up to how effective it is.
It is sad that there is no space to discuss these new techniques that isn't full of opportunists and clout chasers.
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#7The trick is that you have to be a good coder to get the most out of "vibe" coding. It works great for me, but I deploy all of the knowledge I've acquired over the decades as a professional developer. You need to know how to architect systems, what data structures and algorithms to ask for, how to design a product, many facets of graphic and user interface design, how to parcel out work, how to parallelize tasks. Even which ideas are worth pursuing is an intuition you build up over years. "Vibe" coding really is magic and I'm highly scaled, but I don't see how it could possibly work for all but the most senior developers. In some sense, it's like writing LISP macros on steroids.
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#8I have no idea how it's marketed - if it's as a replacement for developers then yeah it's BS.
I regularly use Claude code (and Claude) to write code for
- throwaways data processing or visualization
- connecting to an API I have some documentation for
- demoing some concept
I think it's great for data science and product stuff, and on those merits will be a multi-billion dollar industry. I would never let it near a real codebase.
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#9I sit on a few indie hacker rooms with folks that slurped up the vibe coding koolaid immediately and they've been posting about their 100x output for over a year now - but none of them have shipped anything remotely successful - so I think at least anecdotally I somewhat agree. I also just overall haven't seen a huge influx of new and useful apps and websites as you'd expect based on how tech leaders are talking abou…
100x of zero is still zero
Re: All vibe coding tools are selling a get rich quick scheme
#10> at first i was very hopeful i can finally 'build' now with my minimal tech skills
This is the problem. If you couldn't have coded it slowly in the old world, you will have problems coding it in AI world.
However if you have a lot of coding experience, you can now compress the time it would have taken you be an enormous amount. My experience is that I can now make extensive changes with very little effort, and very few dead ends. I've been able to take on entire secondary projects where I was just replication existing knowledge with slightly different tools.
Just this week I had a litmus test. I had an existing database that I'm pushing huge amount of data to. I decided to try a different underlying database. This would have taken me a full week of looking at documentation and writing supporting scripts, now I've done it in the spare time I had in two days of my actual work.
And it's not like the AI just did it all unsupervised. It threatened to do down the wrong path a few times, but each time I spotted it and steered it the way I wanted. I also asked it a few questions about curiosities I discovered in the emitted code, and that led to fixes as well.
If I didn't know how to code before, I would still be coding this alternative database.