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How can England possibly be running out of water?

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Re: How can England possibly be running out of water?

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> Future generations, who will be dealing with long, dry summers, would probably be shocked at the profligate way clean tap water was used to flush toilets, water gardens and run washing machines.

Climate change means societal change. There was a time that Northern Africa was one of the best places in the world to grow crops. They were at the top of civilization for thousands of years. Climate changed, what people could grow and do changed too.

The difference this time is that we did this to ourselves. Even worse that we continue making our future prospects worse on purpose so a few oil countries can squish some extra money from earth. It is baffling the lack of foresight.

Re: How can England possibly be running out of water?

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> Future generations, who will be dealing with long, dry summers, would probably be shocked at the profligate way clean tap water was used to flush toilets, water gardens and run washing machines. Climate change means societal change. There was a time that Northern Africa was one of the best places in the world to grow crops. They were at the top of civilization for thousands of years. Climate changed, what people co…

> so a few oil countries can squish some extra money

so none of the users of those oil, who paid for it willingly, had any responsibility at all then?

Re: How can England possibly be running out of water?

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> Future generations, who will be dealing with long, dry summers, would probably be shocked at the profligate way clean tap water was used to flush toilets, water gardens and run washing machines. Climate change means societal change. There was a time that Northern Africa was one of the best places in the world to grow crops. They were at the top of civilization for thousands of years. Climate changed, what people co…

> so a few oil countries can squish some extra money so none of the users of those oil, who paid for it willingly, had any responsibility at all then?

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Re: How can England possibly be running out of water?

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> Forecasts indicate that by 2055 England’s public water supply could be short by 5bn litres a day

> Water companies in England and Wales lose about 1tn litres of water through leaky pipes each year.

Seems like there's most of a solution here, just staring us in the face, no? Problem being of course, that the privatised water companies have little incentive or investment in order to tackle the problem.

Are we ready to admit that selling off critical national infrastructure was a stupid idea, yet?

It's the same story with power and gas, wherever they get turned over to the private sector, things get worse. Fundamentally I don't give the first shit about choosing an energy provider. I don't want to find a new deal every few years. I don't give a shit about choice, I just want someone to do it well and charge reasonably. Instead you get stuck in a market offering discounted signup rates and you have to switch every year, while the companies draw their earnings from the minority of people who forget or otherwise can't be bothered to switch.

I don't miss that from the UK. Here in communist Western Australia we maintained ownership of the water, power and gas infrastructure, where other parts of the country set up privatised energy marketplaces. When the UK and the rest of Australia were screaming about rocketing bills, we were protected from some of the fluctuations in international energy prices over the last few years and any profits got ploughed back into infrastructure or the state coffers rather than heading off to private hands. It's just better...

Re: How can England possibly be running out of water?

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No mention of the fact that our population has grown by 20% (by official statistics, likely much more) in just 30 years?

The subtitle of the article mentions it:

> While famously rainswept, climate crisis, population growth and profligacy mean the once unthinkable could be possible

Also from the article:

> No new reservoir has been built in 30 years despite significant population growth

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