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Ask HN: What if teachers invested in students instead of charging tuition?

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Imagine if teachers and mentors could invest in their students by giving them capital and teaching them in exchange for equity in their future outcomes (not income, but future equities in companies).

For ex: Alice, a great designer, could give each of her students capital that the students can use to pay rent, food, products and services to help them design, explore, or whatever (it’s their money!).

But what exactly would Alice get in return? Let’s say we create a “personal token”, an instrument that represents an individual’s potential, with transactable shares, grounded in their equities in companies and other personal tokens (via dividends on capital gains).

So Alice would get shares (equity) in each student’s personal token in exchange for her training + capital.

This would mean:

1. Students don't take on debt. In fact they get paid to learn!

2. Alice is held accountable. If she fails to meaningfully improve her students' outcomes, she loses her investment. This means Alice is forced to adapt her training to what is actually relevant to the world.

3. Teacher-student relationships last years / decades, not semesters. Alice is strongly incentivized to help her students whenever they need it, because she has equity in their long-term success.

But why? AI is making outcomes extreme (power law distribution). We can already feel this in software engineering: AI makes the best engineers far better than the median. As the gap between the best and rest grows, it becomes too risky to finance education with debt for the same reason it’s too risky to finance startups or content creation with debt.

Paul Graham was one of the earliest examples of this model. He didn’t need to guard his knowledge or put it behind a paywall because he had a much more powerful way to capture value: by investing in the founders his essays attracted. If teachers could invest in students, knowledge would spread more freely because sharing knowledge itself would become a funnel for investing. Even students who never raise would still benefit from the higher-quality knowledge that becomes available.

Thoughts?

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What about all the people who don’t go on to start their own businesses? Do they not get taught?

This also applies to people who join companies and receive equity as part of their compensation. So initially, it’s most applicable to those who are likely to earn equity in the future — whether by starting a company or joining one.

Over time, though, I see it spreading to more domains as venture-backed models expand. For example, more researchers now get equity upside because more companies are being built around various kinds of research.

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What about all the people who don’t go on to start their own businesses? Do they not get taught?

What about folks who go on to be teachers? Sounds like a pyramid scheme with extra steps.

It’s not a pyramid scheme because it’s ultimately grounded in real value: equities in companies, which themselves are grounded in revenue.

If someone becomes a teacher, they would earn equity in their own students’ personal tokens. When those teachers eventually realize gains by selling shares, their own teachers (as shareholders) share in that upside too.

And if the teaching doesn’t actually create value, then everyone in that chain loses, which keeps the system honest.

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This sounds like a scam and teachers get their students jobs and then more people get a cut and these students really get not much…

Students wouldn’t be giving up much: typically no more than 5–10% of their personal token. And importantly, this isn’t tied to income, so nothing in their day-to-day life is taken away.

Dividends only flow to shareholders when the student realizes capital gains (e.g., selling equity in a company), not from salary. Even then, there can be sensible safeguards, like only triggering dividends once total gains exceed $1M.

So students still keep nearly all of their upside, while gaining resources and support they wouldn’t otherwise have access to.

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