Anthropic agrees to pay $1.5B to settle lawsuit with book authors
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#2It will be interesting to see how this impacts the lawsuits against OpenAI, Meta, and Microsoft. Will they quickly try to settle for billions as well?
It’s not precedent setting but surely it’ll have an impact.
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#3> A trial was scheduled to begin in December to determine how much Anthropic owed for the alleged piracy, with potential damages ranging into the hundreds of billions of dollars.
It has been admitted and Anthropic knew that this trial would totally bankrupt them had they said they were innocent and continued to fight the case.
But of course, there's too much money on the line, which means even though Anthropic settled (admitting guilt and profiting off of pirated books) they (Anthropic) knew there was no way they could win that case, and was not worth taking that risk.
> The pivotal fair-use question is still being debated in other AI copyright cases. Another San Francisco judge hearing a similar ongoing lawsuit against Meta ruled shortly after Alsup's decision that using copyrighted work without permission to train AI would be unlawful in "many circumstances."
The first of many.
Re: Anthropic agrees to pay $1.5B to settle lawsuit with book authors
#4> A trial was scheduled to begin in December to determine how much Anthropic owed for the alleged piracy, with potential damages ranging into the hundreds of billions of dollars. It has been admitted and Anthropic knew that this trial would totally bankrupt them had they said they were innocent and continued to fight the case. But of course, there's too much money on the line, which means even though Anthropic settle…
Wait, DID they admit guilt? A lot of times companies settle without admitting guilt.
Re: Anthropic agrees to pay $1.5B to settle lawsuit with book authors
#5Honestly, this is a steal for Anthropic.
Re: Anthropic agrees to pay $1.5B to settle lawsuit with book authors
#6It will be interesting to see how this impacts the lawsuits against OpenAI, Meta, and Microsoft. Will they quickly try to settle for billions as well? It’s not precedent setting but surely it’ll have an impact.
That was my first though. While not legal precedent, it does sort of open the flood gates for others.
Re: Anthropic agrees to pay $1.5B to settle lawsuit with book authors
#7It will be interesting to see how this impacts the lawsuits against OpenAI, Meta, and Microsoft. Will they quickly try to settle for billions as well? It’s not precedent setting but surely it’ll have an impact.
Maybe, though this lawsuit is different in respect to the piracy issue. Anthropic is paying the settlement because they pirated the books, not because training on copyrighted books isn’t fair use which isn’t necessarily true with the other cases.
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#8To be very clear on this point - this is not related to model training.
It’s important in the fair use assessment to understand that the training itself is fair use, but the pirating of the books is the issue at hand here, and is what Anthropic “whoopsied” into in acquiring the training data.
Buying used copies of books, scanning them, and training on it is fine.
Rainbows End was prescient in many ways.
Re: Anthropic agrees to pay $1.5B to settle lawsuit with book authors
#9> A trial was scheduled to begin in December to determine how much Anthropic owed for the alleged piracy, with potential damages ranging into the hundreds of billions of dollars. It has been admitted and Anthropic knew that this trial would totally bankrupt them had they said they were innocent and continued to fight the case. But of course, there's too much money on the line, which means even though Anthropic settle…
If it was a sure thing, then the rights holders wouldn't have accepted a settlement deal for a measly couple billion. Both sides are happier to avoid risking losing the suit.
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#10Wait so they raised all that money just to give it to publishers?
Can only imagine the pitch, yes please give us billions of dollars. We are going to make a huge investment like paying of our lawsuits.