Next.js is infuriating

I don't get these kind of complaints, coming from Java and .NET web frameworks, Next,js is the only sane frontend framework followed by Angular.

Saying this as someone doing Web related development since 1998, glory days of Perl and CGIs.

It really is. I am a staunch react defender, I work with it daily and I found the change from class components to hooks to be a better programming model.

But whenever I work with Next, I feel like we lost the plot somewhere. I try a lot of frameworks and I like esoteric programming languages, but somehow Next.js, the frontier JavaScript framework embraced by React is the only experience where half the time, I have no idea what it’s error messages (if I get any to begin with) are trying to tell me. I can’t even count the hours I spent with weird hydration issues.

I don't think the post is an unreasonable complaint. The fact that you have to even think about how to get logs out of your application is insane, never mind all the hoops you need here. Logging should be a first class citizen in anything that goes to production.

I like it. I have been involved in software development for 20+ years - Perl, PHP, Java, Pyhon. And Nextjs and React gave me back the joy to develop web frontend again.

There are a lot of gotchas and considerations with Nextjs, but it is a framework and it is not unexpected that unless it is developed by yourself, frameworks require some getting used to.

There are some things that could be better, especially in non-Vercel-hosted scenarios, and if the backend for frontend part becomes too complicated, I would switch to Nest.js, but overall I am satisfied with Next.

Remix (cough react router 7 framework mode cough) is like the polar opposite of this, it's just a Request -> Response handler that you have to build your server around manually. Which I found kind of annoying at first but it does give you the freedom to do what you want.