AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified
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Re: AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified
#2Which is more important, the rights of the infringed or of the funded and hyped business?
Re: AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified
#3Which is more important, the rights of the infringed or of the funded and hyped business?
A new company could buy the bankrupt companies' intellectual property and train a new LLM using the entire internet but only licensed books. This would represent a transfer of funds from investors to publishers.
Re: AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified
#4Paraphrased: "Confronted with such extreme potential damages, The Pirate Bay might need to adjust its strategy. It would set an alarming precedent."
It is amazing how shamelessly these LLM thieves argue.
Re: AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified
#5Which is more important, the rights of the infringed or of the funded and hyped business?
A new company could buy the bankrupt companies' intellectual property and train a new LLM using the entire internet but only licensed books. This would represent a transfer of funds from investors to publishers.
Perhaps a large publishing company could buy these AI bankrupts…
Nice product you have there, shame if it got sued for copyright infringement.
Re: AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified
#6Paraphrased: "Confronted with such extreme potential damages, The Pirate Bay might need to adjust its strategy. It would set an alarming precedent." It is amazing how shamelessly these LLM thieves argue.
> It is amazing how shamelessly these LLM thieves argue.
Paraphrasing that: it is amazing how much money these shameless LLM thieves have.
Re: AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified
#7Which is more important, the rights of the infringed or of the funded and hyped business?
Too big to fail 2: Electric Boogaloo
Re: AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified
#8Their defense seems to be that AI requires crime to exist, so they should be allowed to do crime. This is not a defense permitted in any body of law. They're going to need to work on that.
Re: AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified
#9Which is more important, the rights of the infringed or of the funded and hyped business?
And don’t forget: ‘if we have to respect copyright law, then CHINA WINS!’
Re: AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified
#10Copyright is a deal society has made to advance the arts and sciences. We get more innovative media of all kinds, and in exchange, we pay for the government's policing of the right to copy.
I'm not AI optimist or booster, but AI is an advancement in the arts and sciences, despite all the risks and downsides. AI is a derivative work from all digitized media.
There's an argument to be made that the AI companies should borrow a copy of every book, rent every movie, etc. But the money accruing to the owners of those copyrights would be marginal, and even summing over all those individual copyright claims, I'd say that the societal benefit to AI is greater.
Maybe it's time that we have compulsory licensing the way that radio can license music to play. As training data for AI, a compulsory license, in principle, should be quite cheap, on par with renting that media.
The bigger question is to what extent AI will tend to make other media obsolete. We are already seeing this with AI summaries in web search undermining the search results themselves. I don't have an answer to that, except to say that severely restricting the training data available to AI is not very helpful.