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Apple's Favoritism to Fastmail

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Re: Apple's Favoritism to Fastmail

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Post by paul-tharun »

tyleo wrote: post #2

I feel like this is low on details. I despise social media comments as HN submissions. What actually happened here?

MXRoute has been trying from ages to get push notifications on the IOS mail app but were getting ignored.

FastMail got access to it and it is not clear how, without any public announcement or documentation.

It is as if Apple just picked a favorite and went with it.

Re: Apple's Favoritism to Fastmail

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Post by slau »

tyleo wrote: post #2

I feel like this is low on details. I despise social media comments as HN submissions. What actually happened here?

I kind of wrote about this: https://sebastian.lauwe.rs/blog/ios-migadu-notifications/

It’s more focused on how to get notifications to work with an email server that does not support XAPPLEPUSHSERVICE, but I also delve into how Apple abandoned the only reference implementation of XAPPLEPUSHSERVICE.

Re: Apple's Favoritism to Fastmail

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Post by Weethet »

paul-tharun wrote: post #3
tyleo wrote: post #2

I feel like this is low on details. I despise social media comments as HN submissions. What actually happened here?

MXRoute has been trying from ages to get push notifications on the IOS mail app but were getting ignored. FastMail got access to it and it is not clear how, without any public announcement or documentation. It is as if Apple just picked a favorite and went with it.

FastMail is using JMAP, a protocol designed to support push notifications. MXRoute is stuck with SMTP/IMAP which don't support those. There might be a different reason, but I think this is probably the core issue here

Re: Apple's Favoritism to Fastmail

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Post by spacedcowboy »

paul-tharun wrote: post #3
tyleo wrote: post #2

I feel like this is low on details. I despise social media comments as HN submissions. What actually happened here?

MXRoute has been trying from ages to get push notifications on the IOS mail app but were getting ignored. FastMail got access to it and it is not clear how, without any public announcement or documentation. It is as if Apple just picked a favorite and went with it.

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Re: Apple's Favoritism to Fastmail

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Post by Weethet »

spacedcowboy wrote: post #6
paul-tharun wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MXRoute has been trying from ages to get push notifications on the IOS mail app but were getting ignored. FastMail got access to it and it is not clear how, without any public announcement or documentation. It is as if Apple just picked a favorite and went with it.

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For example a relatively modern email protocol: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8621.html

Re: Apple's Favoritism to Fastmail

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Post by mpercival531 »

tyleo wrote: post #2

I feel like this is low on details. I despise social media comments as HN submissions. What actually happened here?

iOS Mail app does not support IMAP IDLE like any ordinary email clients.

It only supports a proprietary IMAP extension that uses Apple Push Notification Services (APNS) as a sideband channel for IMAP servers to signal the iOS Mail app.

Last I researched this (like… years ago), most IMAP-based email providers that are listed by the iOS Settings have implemented the extension, except for Gmail and Exchange. Fastmail then got on the train since 2015.

Not sure what is with the tweet targeting Fastmail specifically though.

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