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More than two hard disks in DOS

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Re: More than two hard disks in DOS

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Quite the nostalgia blast for me!

I'm honestly not sure I had a machine with more than 2 fixed disks until well into the days of Windows 7 and SATA. The exception would be logical disks such as Stacker or similar compressed volumes - but I wasn't using them until later either.

If I recall correctly before SATA we had IDE which only had two devices (primary & secondary) per controller, and usually only two controllers on a motherboard. Given the physical size of disks even you'd probably just have a boot disk, maybe a data disk and then perhaps two optical drives. So it's absolutely believable that nobody found the bug simply because nobody had a machine configured that way.

Sure, you could have SCSI for more disks. But if you did, then you were probably doing something that required a lot of CPU grunt - at which point you might just leave the PC behind and go to a UNIX workstation anyway.

OK, now I'm starting to get flashbacks to just how bad SCSI support was on the PC, and it's stripping the the rose-tint from my glasses. Time to go!

Re: More than two hard disks in DOS

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Quite the nostalgia blast for me! I'm honestly not sure I had a machine with more than 2 fixed disks until well into the days of Windows 7 and SATA. The exception would be logical disks such as Stacker or similar compressed volumes - but I wasn't using them until later either. If I recall correctly before SATA we had IDE which only had two devices (primary & secondary) per controller, and usually only two controllers…

I had added a 2nd disk on my 386sx, but I guess it was after the DOS 5.0 time. I did not realize before v5 it was not allowed.

Not long afterwards I ended up on Coherent OS, fun times.

Re: More than two hard disks in DOS

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Quite the nostalgia blast for me! I'm honestly not sure I had a machine with more than 2 fixed disks until well into the days of Windows 7 and SATA. The exception would be logical disks such as Stacker or similar compressed volumes - but I wasn't using them until later either. If I recall correctly before SATA we had IDE which only had two devices (primary & secondary) per controller, and usually only two controllers…

And expensive, really expensive.

Re: More than two hard disks in DOS

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post #4

Quite the nostalgia blast for me! I'm honestly not sure I had a machine with more than 2 fixed disks until well into the days of Windows 7 and SATA. The exception would be logical disks such as Stacker or similar compressed volumes - but I wasn't using them until later either. If I recall correctly before SATA we had IDE which only had two devices (primary & secondary) per controller, and usually only two controllers…

And expensive, really expensive.

I was gonna say, "MORE THAN TWO HARD DISKS? IN THE DAYS OF DOS?! Anything else we could get for you, your majesty?"

Re: More than two hard disks in DOS

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Quite the nostalgia blast for me! I'm honestly not sure I had a machine with more than 2 fixed disks until well into the days of Windows 7 and SATA. The exception would be logical disks such as Stacker or similar compressed volumes - but I wasn't using them until later either. If I recall correctly before SATA we had IDE which only had two devices (primary & secondary) per controller, and usually only two controllers…

There were also MFM and RLL hard drives. I don't recall if they were pre-IDE or something different altogether. It's been a long time.

Re: More than two hard disks in DOS

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And expensive, really expensive.

I was gonna say, " MORE THAN TWO HARD DISKS? IN THE DAYS OF DOS?! Anything else we could get for you, your majesty?"

I have piles of old, but still functioning HDs now. I was looking at them yesterday and thought about how cheap these things have become.

I had to save up to buy floppies in the 80s!

Re: More than two hard disks in DOS

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> ... was missed for years simply because no one had a PC with more than two hard disks.

Thats a hardware limit:

Early mainboards only had a single IDE / parallel ATA port. Each port has two pins for drive select, so you had a maximum of two addressable drives, the master and slave drive.

With a secondary ATA port you got another set of master/slave, pushing the limit to 4 drives.

That's where the "primary master" text comes from that showed up on the screen during booting.

Re: More than two hard disks in DOS

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Quite the nostalgia blast for me! I'm honestly not sure I had a machine with more than 2 fixed disks until well into the days of Windows 7 and SATA. The exception would be logical disks such as Stacker or similar compressed volumes - but I wasn't using them until later either. If I recall correctly before SATA we had IDE which only had two devices (primary & secondary) per controller, and usually only two controllers…

> before SATA we had IDE

I had the original IBM PC with two 5.25" floppy drives, and I think that was all the room there was on the disk controller. Dad bought a 10MB Hardcard to expand it; that went in an ISA slot, if I remember correctly. The disk controller might have been in an ISA slot, too.

I think that pre-AT era would have constrained DOS <5.0 more than the IDE/SATA/SCSI eras.

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