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Facts will not save you – AI, history and Soviet sci-fi

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Re: Facts will not save you – AI, history and Soviet sci-fi

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> The initial draft was terrible in conveying tone, irony, or any kind of cultural allusion.

My mother reads books mostly in Russian, including books by English-speaking authors translated into Russian.

Some of the translations are laughably bad; one recent example had to translate "hot MILF", and just translated "hot" verbatim - as in the adjective indicating temperature - and just transliterated the word "MILF", as the translator (or machine?) apparently just had no idea what it was, and didn't know the equivalent term in Russian.

As a mirror, I have a hard time reading things in Russian - I left when I was ten years old, so I'm very out of practice, and most of the cultural allusions go straight over my head as well. A good translation needs to make those things clear, either via a good translation, or by footnotes that explain things to the reader.

And this doesn't just apply to linguistic translation - the past is a foreign country, too. Reading old texts - any old texts - requires context.

Re: Facts will not save you – AI, history and Soviet sci-fi

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> The initial draft was terrible in conveying tone, irony, or any kind of cultural allusion. My mother reads books mostly in Russian, including books by English-speaking authors translated into Russian. Some of the translations are laughably bad; one recent example had to translate "hot MILF", and just translated "hot" verbatim - as in the adjective indicating temperature - and just transliterated the word "MILF", as…

As a Russian, горячая милфа is exactly how I’d translate it. I think a lot of slang got borrowed like this in 2000-s.

Re: Facts will not save you – AI, history and Soviet sci-fi

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> The initial draft was terrible in conveying tone, irony, or any kind of cultural allusion. My mother reads books mostly in Russian, including books by English-speaking authors translated into Russian. Some of the translations are laughably bad; one recent example had to translate "hot MILF", and just translated "hot" verbatim - as in the adjective indicating temperature - and just transliterated the word "MILF", as…

Reminds me of my Czech friend explaining some of the subtle humour in 'Kolya' which I would never have got just from the English subtitles.

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> The initial draft was terrible in conveying tone, irony, or any kind of cultural allusion. My mother reads books mostly in Russian, including books by English-speaking authors translated into Russian. Some of the translations are laughably bad; one recent example had to translate "hot MILF", and just translated "hot" verbatim - as in the adjective indicating temperature - and just transliterated the word "MILF", as…

> and just translated "hot" verbatim - as in the adjective indicating temperature

Well, "горячий" does have figurative meaning "passionate" (and by transfer, "sexy") in Russian just as it has in English. Heck, English is even worse in this regard: "heated argument", seriously? Not only an argument doesn't have a temperature, you can't change it either (since it does not exist)! Yet the phrase exists just fine, and it translates as "hot argument" to Russian, no problem.

No comments on "MILF" though. But I wouldn't be surprised if it actually entered the (youth/Internet) slang as-is: many other English words did as well.

Re: Facts will not save you – AI, history and Soviet sci-fi

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> Still, without AI a story like this would have taken me several weeks to translate and polish, instead of one afternoon.

I don't understand this. It's only six thousand words and it's the polishing that takes the time. How would it have taken weeks to do the initial draft?

Re: Facts will not save you – AI, history and Soviet sci-fi

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I agree and disagree. It's certainly the case that facts imply underlying epistemologies, but it completely misses the point to treat that like it entails catastrophic relativism.

Building up an epistemology isn't just recreational, ideally it's done for good reasons that are responsive to scrunity, standing firm on important principles and, where necessarily, conciliatory in response to epistemological conundrums. In short, such theories can be resilient and responsible, and facts based on them can inherent that resilience.

So I think it completely misses the point to think that "facts imply epistemologies" should have the upshot of destroying any conception of access to authoritative factual understanding. Global warming is still real, vaccines are still effective, sunscreen works, dinosaurs really existed. And perhaps, more to the point in this context, there really are better and worse understandings of the fall of Rome or the Dark Ages or Pompeii or the Iraq war.

If being accountable to the theory-laden epistemic status of facts means throwing the stability of our historical understanding into question, you're doing it wrong.

And, as it relates to the article, you're doing it super wrong if you think that creates an opening for a notion of human intuition that is fundamentally non-informational. I think it's definitely true that AI as it currently exists can spew out linguistically flat translations, lacking such things as an interpretive touch, or an implicit literary and cultural curiosity that breathes the fire of life and meaning into language as it is actually experienced by humans. That's a great and necessary criticism. But.

Hubert Dreyfus spent decades insisting that there were things "computers can't do", and that those things were represented by magical undefined terms that speak to ineffable human essence. He insisted, for instance, that computers performing chess at a high level would never happen because it required "insight", and he felt similarly about the kind of linguistic comprehension that has now, at least in part, been achieved by LLMs.

LLMs still fall short in critical ways, and losing sight of that would involve letting go of our ability to appreciate the best human work in (say) history, or linguistics. And there's a real risk that "good enough" AI can cause us to lose touch with such distinctions. But I don't think it follows that you have to draw a categorical line insisting such understanding is impossible, and in fact I would suggest that's a tragic misunderstanding that gets everything exactly backwards.

Re: Facts will not save you – AI, history and Soviet sci-fi

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This whole article is based on misinterpreting Microsoft's "AI applicability score" for "risk of job being made redundant by AI". From the original paper:

"This score captures if there is nontrivial AI usage that successfully completes activities corresponding to significant portions of an occupation’s tasks."

Then the author describes their job qualitatively matching their AI applicability score by using AI to do most of their work for them.

If there's a lot of unmet demand for low-priced high-quality translation, translators could end up having more work, not less.

Re: Facts will not save you – AI, history and Soviet sci-fi

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I agree and disagree. It's certainly the case that facts imply underlying epistemologies, but it completely misses the point to treat that like it entails catastrophic relativism. Building up an epistemology isn't just recreational, ideally it's done for good reasons that are responsive to scrunity, standing firm on important principles and, where necessarily, conciliatory in response to epistemological conundrums. I…

I agree with this whole-heartedly.

Certainly some facts can imply a certain understanding of the world, but they don't require that understanding in order to remain true. The map may require the territory, but the territory does not require the map.

“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” ― Philip K. Dick

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