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I hacked my washing machine

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Re: I hacked my washing machine

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I'm surprised you let your washing machine into your network. I now get the appeal of just an alert the washing machine is done. But I could not for the life of me allow any of these kinds of devices onto my home network. Even in isolation...

Re: I hacked my washing machine

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Respect, but this is kinda the hard way - I just plugged mine (dumb machine, not smart) in via an energy metering plug, and when energy use drops to less than 10W for more than 2 minutes, it’s done - very simple homeassistant automation. Convenient for me as the machine is 500m from the house.

Re: I hacked my washing machine

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post #2

I'm surprised you let your washing machine into your network. I now get the appeal of just an alert the washing machine is done. But I could not for the life of me allow any of these kinds of devices onto my home network. Even in isolation...

Why wouldn't you allow it in isolation?

Re: I hacked my washing machine

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post #2

I'm surprised you let your washing machine into your network. I now get the appeal of just an alert the washing machine is done. But I could not for the life of me allow any of these kinds of devices onto my home network. Even in isolation...

Why?

Re: I hacked my washing machine

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post #2

I'm surprised you let your washing machine into your network. I now get the appeal of just an alert the washing machine is done. But I could not for the life of me allow any of these kinds of devices onto my home network. Even in isolation...

It's fairly simple to keep these devices isolated and if you have a decent firewall, you shouldn't have much to worry about. Keeping them in a separate, internet-only VLAN with peer to peer isolation is typically the standard protocol. That said, in a lot of cases, even keeping the isolated doesn't resolve any privacy concerns. Also, with some devices, you have to open up mDNS.

Re: I hacked my washing machine

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Respect, but this is kinda the hard way - I just plugged mine (dumb machine, not smart) in via an energy metering plug, and when energy use drops to less than 10W for more than 2 minutes, it’s done - very simple homeassistant automation. Convenient for me as the machine is 500m from the house.

Now I want to know why your washing machine is half a kilometer from your house.

Re: I hacked my washing machine

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post #2

I'm surprised you let your washing machine into your network. I now get the appeal of just an alert the washing machine is done. But I could not for the life of me allow any of these kinds of devices onto my home network. Even in isolation...

My dryer doesn't have a delay function accessable via the front panel, it's been "app gated", and the only way the app can talk to it is via WiFi, so if I ever need to set a delay, I have to use the app. All IoT devices are on their own VLAN though, and where possible firewalled off too. I can easily imagine more features being locked behind the app for future models.

Re: I hacked my washing machine

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post #4
post #2

I'm surprised you let your washing machine into your network. I now get the appeal of just an alert the washing machine is done. But I could not for the life of me allow any of these kinds of devices onto my home network. Even in isolation...

Why wouldn't you allow it in isolation?

How isolated are we talking? A device that only has access to the internet can still get botnetted and send malicious traffic from your IP. Or burn your data cap, or spy on you for the vendor.

Re: I hacked my washing machine

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post #2

I'm surprised you let your washing machine into your network. I now get the appeal of just an alert the washing machine is done. But I could not for the life of me allow any of these kinds of devices onto my home network. Even in isolation...

Creating an IoT wifi that is one way is reasonably possible.

Someone shared this pdf written by someone that had a nice overview that is transferable to any router.

https://github.com/mjp66/Ubiquiti

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