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Comparing the Glove80 and Maltron Keyboards

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Re: Comparing the Glove80 and Maltron Keyboards

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Yeah the glove thumb pad sucks. Those 2 keys furthest away are impossible with RSI. Surely it's obvious. I'm surprised they haven't refined them. Apart from that it's a great keyboard.

I have used splits for a long time. An improvement I swear by for thumb clusters is making the keys farther from me taller. I have no idea how I'd hit them without that. My keyboard is a Keebio Iris [0]. The thumb keys closest to me have relatively low-profile DSA key caps. The keys above them are SA (edit: row 3). I think this is a decent avenue for keyboard customizers to explore to make their thumbs have a better time reaching up a row.

The Glove uses low profile switches though, so I have no idea if different height caps are even possible with those.

[0] https://keeb.io/collections/iris-split-ergonomic-keyboard

Re: Comparing the Glove80 and Maltron Keyboards

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Yeah the glove thumb pad sucks. Those 2 keys furthest away are impossible with RSI. Surely it's obvious. I'm surprised they haven't refined them. Apart from that it's a great keyboard.

I have used splits for a long time. An improvement I swear by for thumb clusters is making the keys farther from me taller. I have no idea how I'd hit them without that. My keyboard is a Keebio Iris [0]. The thumb keys closest to me have relatively low-profile DSA key caps. The keys above them are SA (edit: row 3). I think this is a decent avenue for keyboard customizers to explore to make their thumbs have a better…

profiled keycaps are absolutely possible but I haven't seen any out there. someone wanting that would probably have to 3D print their own, or at least some kind of spacer

Re: Comparing the Glove80 and Maltron Keyboards

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Yeah the glove thumb pad sucks. Those 2 keys furthest away are impossible with RSI. Surely it's obvious. I'm surprised they haven't refined them. Apart from that it's a great keyboard.

Same. Owned two. Sold both of them because of the thumb cluster issue, it was killing my thumb joint.

Re: Comparing the Glove80 and Maltron Keyboards

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I've usually seen "thumb clusters" used for those style of key layouts, rather than thumb pads.

I've been using some variant of the Kinesis Advantage line for over 10 years - currently the Advantage360, their split board. I used an ergodox for a few years before that.

The Advantages are all 3d curved layouts with thumb clusters like the Maltron, and I haven't had RSI issues since making the move. The 360pro runs ZMK for firmware customization, and the stands do support different tenting angles.

Worth a try if you're looking for a more direct alternative to the Maltron.

Re: Comparing the Glove80 and Maltron Keyboards

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Yeah the glove thumb pad sucks. Those 2 keys furthest away are impossible with RSI. Surely it's obvious. I'm surprised they haven't refined them. Apart from that it's a great keyboard.

Have you tried the moonlander, or similar style thumb pads with articulated or more exaggerated angle? Seems to me that the thumb action should be at about 90 degrees to the finger action. I have a fancy keyboard to help with wrist issues, and I think thumb issues will arise next.

Re: Comparing the Glove80 and Maltron Keyboards

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I have had literally this exact same experience with the Glove80.

I like everything about it except for the thumb cluster. it is, amazingly, worse than the Ergodox EZ.

I wish the author would spring for a wireless Dygma Defy and tell us how that thumb cluster compares :)

Re: Comparing the Glove80 and Maltron Keyboards

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I have had literally this exact same experience with the Glove80. I like everything about it except for the thumb cluster. it is, amazingly, worse than the Ergodox EZ. I wish the author would spring for a wireless Dygma Defy and tell us how that thumb cluster compares :)

Not the author, I did that transition myself and so far I'm pretty satisfied with the Defy.

Re: Comparing the Glove80 and Maltron Keyboards

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You reference Kinesis in the article so I assume you've seen the Kinesis Advantage 360? I've been a happy Kinseis Advantage user for two decades, and the 360 is pretty much perfect. It has dedicated keys for activating layers, you can remap and configure on a website using web serial, and it is extremely premium looking/feeling. And of course it's very comfortable without the thumb key problem discussed in this article.
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