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Mistral reports on the environmental impact of LLMs

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Re: Mistral reports on the environmental impact of LLMs

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I would really like it if an LLM tool would show me the power consumption and environmental impact of each request I’ve submitted.

And each toilet flush you make should also have a Co2 calculation which should go against your daily carbon allowance.

Re: Mistral reports on the environmental impact of LLMs

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I would really like it if an LLM tool would show me the power consumption and environmental impact of each request I’ve submitted.

And each toilet flush you make should also have a Co2 calculation which should go against your daily carbon allowance.

Spending drinking water for toilet flushes is indeed a problem. Perhaps not CO2 measurements directly, but informing people in general of how much high quality water is wasted on flushes alone will hopefully bring more momentum into more efficient flushing mechanism and introducing grey water systems to new and old buildings alike. Good idea!

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I would really like it if an LLM tool would show me the power consumption and environmental impact of each request I’ve submitted.

And each toilet flush you make should also have a Co2 calculation which should go against your daily carbon allowance.

people downvote your sarcasm, but if you do the calculations you're kinda right.

1Kg of Beef costs:

  - The energy equivalent of 60.000 ChatGPT queries.
  - The water equivalent of 50.000.000 ChatGPT queries.
Applied to their metric Mistral Large 2 used:

  - The water equivalent of 18.8 Tons of Beef.
  - The CO2 equivalent of 204 Tons of Beef.
France produces 3836 Tons of Beef per day,

and one large LLM per 6 months.

So yeah, maybe use ChatGPT to ask for vegan recipes.

People will try to blame everything else they can get a hold on before changing the stuff that really has an impact, if it means touching their lifestyle.

The LLMs are not the problem here.

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And each toilet flush you make should also have a Co2 calculation which should go against your daily carbon allowance.

people downvote your sarcasm, but if you do the calculations you're kinda right. 1Kg of Beef costs: - The energy equivalent of 60.000 ChatGPT queries. - The water equivalent of 50.000.000 ChatGPT queries. Applied to their metric Mistral Large 2 used: - The water equivalent of 18.8 Tons of Beef. - The CO2 equivalent of 204 Tons of Beef. France produces 3836 Tons of Beef per day, and one large LLM per 6 months. So yeah…

The difference is that food is important and live-giving and LLMs are a very fancy magic 8-ball

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

people downvote your sarcasm, but if you do the calculations you're kinda right. 1Kg of Beef costs: - The energy equivalent of 60.000 ChatGPT queries. - The water equivalent of 50.000.000 ChatGPT queries. Applied to their metric Mistral Large 2 used: - The water equivalent of 18.8 Tons of Beef. - The CO2 equivalent of 204 Tons of Beef. France produces 3836 Tons of Beef per day, and one large LLM per 6 months. So yeah…

The difference is that food is important and live-giving and LLMs are a very fancy magic 8-ball

You don't need beef, beef is a lifestyle choice.

I use LLMs to do all of my coding these days, it's certainly more essential for feeding me than beef.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is that food is important and live-giving and LLMs are a very fancy magic 8-ball

You don't need beef, beef is a lifestyle choice. I use LLMs to do all of my coding these days, it's certainly more essential for feeding me than beef.

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