Java is still worth learning
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Java is still worth learning
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Re: Java is still worth learning
#2Advocating that people use either Quarkus or Spring is like advocating they build their stuff in COBOL.
Java is an alright language by itself, but the "EE" frameworks and the ecosystem that surrounds them are corrosive to good software. You are actively harming your brain by learning JavaEE. If you do that to new developers you deserve to have your beans turn undiscoverable on Christmas Eve.
Re: Java is still worth learning
#3Can anyone recommend a good Java learning resource for those who already know a popular language like JavaScript or Python?
Re: Java is still worth learning
#4Advocating that people use either Quarkus or Spring is like advocating they build their stuff in COBOL. Java is an alright language by itself, but the "EE" frameworks and the ecosystem that surrounds them are corrosive to good software. You are actively harming your brain by learning JavaEE. If you do that to new developers you deserve to have your beans turn undiscoverable on Christmas Eve.
Spring and Quarkus are not Java EE.
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#5The content of this post makes some sense, however it does look like it’s written by AI and thus lacks depth, context and personal touch.
Re: Java is still worth learning
#6Advocating that people use either Quarkus or Spring is like advocating they build their stuff in COBOL. Java is an alright language by itself, but the "EE" frameworks and the ecosystem that surrounds them are corrosive to good software. You are actively harming your brain by learning JavaEE. If you do that to new developers you deserve to have your beans turn undiscoverable on Christmas Eve.
Spring is a good choice for new projects today.
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#7I don't know. I started my career as a Java dev, but what made me grow as a software developer was learning Scala. I learned a lot about functional programming, algebraic data types, effects, and so on.
I'd say Java is a great production language, mostly because it's so simple that I don't need to "learn" it (when you know better than using madness like `==` or Serializable).
Re: Java is still worth learning
#8Can anyone recommend a good Java learning resource for those who already know a popular language like JavaScript or Python?
https://learnxinyminutes.com/java/
Great starting place for any language.
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#9The content of this post makes some sense, however it does look like it’s written by AI and thus lacks depth, context and personal touch.
Especially sentences like these:
"This wasn’t just about type safety – it was about reducing the mental burden of programming."
The "x wasn't just about n — it was about m" carry a strong LLM smell.
Re: Java is still worth learning
#10Advocating that people use either Quarkus or Spring is like advocating they build their stuff in COBOL. Java is an alright language by itself, but the "EE" frameworks and the ecosystem that surrounds them are corrosive to good software. You are actively harming your brain by learning JavaEE. If you do that to new developers you deserve to have your beans turn undiscoverable on Christmas Eve.
Spring is a good choice for new projects today.
Spring is so versatile that people use it in every way they can possibly imagine. Spring is fine IMHO if you keep it simple enough and refrain from fancy ideas. Maybe I'm just saying to keep it simple, regardless of what you use...
TLDR: don't use XML.