Data on How America Sold Out Its Computer Science Graduates
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Data on How America Sold Out Its Computer Science Graduates
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#3I’ve been hearing about this for decades. It keeps happening because republicans need their cheap labor and democrats need foreign voters. The people in power have tremendous political incentives to keep the pipeline flowing.
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#5There are a lot of errors in that article. Like line 1, the idea that foreign students get jobs before Americans do. Quite the opposite in real life. Go to any school, and see the employment rates in that school for US vs foreign students.
Also H1B pays FICA taxes, that exemption is only for OPT. The OPT exemption can be easily removed.
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Conclusion
The data points cited in the article are mostly accurate, based on available government reports (e.g., USCIS, ICE, NACE). However, the interpretations and causal claims are ideologically framed and often lack nuance:
Sound in identifying employment and wage challenges for new CS graduates.
Oversimplified in attributing these challenges mainly or solely to foreign workers.
Questionable in presenting policy recommendations as the only “truth-based” solution.
If you're looking for a deeper, balanced understanding, consider consulting:
National Science Board’s Science & Engineering Indicators
Brookings Institution or Cato Institute reports (for contrasting views)
NACE and NCES for graduate outcomes and education data
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#8>The percentage of computer science graduates ... For those who specialized in computer programming,
Isn't computer programing all of computer science. This seems like a weird distinction to make?
The job market just seems to suck, if it didnt i dont think things like this would come up. I dont think immigration is the reason for the job market sucking. theres no jobs to apply to, theres no jobs to take from americans in the first place
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#9There are a lot of errors in that article. Like line 1, the idea that foreign students get jobs before Americans do. Quite the opposite in real life. Go to any school, and see the employment rates in that school for US vs foreign students. Also H1B pays FICA taxes, that exemption is only for OPT. The OPT exemption can be easily removed.
Grad students (foreign and non-foreign) also don't pay FICA (or at least, they didn't when I was in grad school). Not that it matters much, grad student pay is nothing to dream about.
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#10There are a lot of errors in that article. Like line 1, the idea that foreign students get jobs before Americans do. Quite the opposite in real life. Go to any school, and see the employment rates in that school for US vs foreign students. Also H1B pays FICA taxes, that exemption is only for OPT. The OPT exemption can be easily removed.
That first point is not comparing students, it is saying that the H1B visas issued that year all have jobs lined up (which is a requirement of the visa). Those jobs are what the new graduates would normally be competing for.