Heroku Isn't for Idiots
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Heroku Isn't for Idiots
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#2Previous discussion here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4062364
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#3I'd love to see an example of someone saying Heroku is for idiots. Although it's a bit pricey[1], I love it to pieces because it lets me focus on what I like to do: shipping product.
That said, I'd be delighted if Heroku would introduce a high-memory dyno. I've been working on something for the past few days where their soft'ish 512MB cap has been biting me in the ass.
[1] Assuming you value your time at something around $0/hour.
edit: thanks for the link!
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#4I'd love to see an example of someone saying Heroku is for idiots. Although it's a bit pricey[1], I love it to pieces because it lets me focus on what I like to do: shipping product. That said, I'd be delighted if Heroku would introduce a high-memory dyno. I've been working on something for the past few days where their soft'ish 512MB cap has been biting me in the ass. [1] Assuming you value your time at something ar…
This rant is a reply to http://justcramer.com/2012/06/02/the-cloud-is-not-for-you/ which is indeed trashing Heroku.
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#5I love this post, and hope it keeps coming up. Some day, developers will learn that even though they could do it as well as Heroku, given enough time and effort, it's just a lot cheaper not to!
This comes up all the time with my company. We make hosted Continous Integration (https://circleci.com), and often hear "can't I just set up Jenkins?". And the answer is the same, "you could, but ...". Run it on EC2, where your tests fail because the IO is bad? What about when three people push at once and you want to get results ASAP? Are you going to manually compile Postgres 9.1? And again when you add a second box to you cluster?
I could go on.
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#6I love this post, and hope it keeps coming up. Some day, developers will learn that even though they could do it as well as Heroku, given enough time and effort, it's just a lot cheaper not to! This comes up all the time with my company. We make hosted Continous Integration ( https://circleci.com ), and often hear "can't I just set up Jenkins?". And the answer is the same, "you could, but ...". Run it on EC2, where y…
... except heroku doesn't do multi-region, which is where things start getting tricky. They make the easy immediate, but haven't really tackled the hard (yet.)
Re: Heroku Isn't for Idiots
#7I'd love to see an example of someone saying Heroku is for idiots. Although it's a bit pricey[1], I love it to pieces because it lets me focus on what I like to do: shipping product. That said, I'd be delighted if Heroku would introduce a high-memory dyno. I've been working on something for the past few days where their soft'ish 512MB cap has been biting me in the ass. [1] Assuming you value your time at something ar…
This rant is a reply to http://justcramer.com/2012/06/02/the-cloud-is-not-for-you/ which is indeed trashing Heroku.
I wasn't aiming to trash Heroku specifically, but the post by Randall is very uninformed.
Re: Heroku Isn't for Idiots
#8I'd love to see an example of someone saying Heroku is for idiots. Although it's a bit pricey[1], I love it to pieces because it lets me focus on what I like to do: shipping product. That said, I'd be delighted if Heroku would introduce a high-memory dyno. I've been working on something for the past few days where their soft'ish 512MB cap has been biting me in the ass. [1] Assuming you value your time at something ar…
This rant is a reply to http://justcramer.com/2012/06/02/the-cloud-is-not-for-you/ which is indeed trashing Heroku.
It's not trashing Heroku specifically, it's actually a pretty good read and highlights real problems.
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#9I love this post, and hope it keeps coming up. Some day, developers will learn that even though they could do it as well as Heroku, given enough time and effort, it's just a lot cheaper not to! This comes up all the time with my company. We make hosted Continous Integration ( https://circleci.com ), and often hear "can't I just set up Jenkins?". And the answer is the same, "you could, but ...". Run it on EC2, where y…
The persistence scaling story for Heroku seems pretty questionable to me. Once you've maxed out what they offer for MySQL and Postgres, what exactly are you supposed to do? Start using EC2 RDS?
Heroku seems to be like a more useful Google App Engine, a good place to host a blog or experimental project if you're not into dev-ops.
If you have a knack (at all) for dev-ops, you're not saving yourself anything.
The downtime is pretty bleh too. The moment you start doing multi-provider to offset this, you'll end up doing all the dev-ops work you would've had to have done before. Except now, you have to do it all at once in a time of what is probably high stress.
If you do the dev-ops/automation yourself from the start, you can start small/simple and grow that as you go, deploying your services to arbitrary hosting providers (EC2, Linode, dedicated boxes, whatever).
This is why whenever anybody asks me my opinion of Heroku, I respond, "it's a great place to host that blog engine you wrote in Haskell/Clojure/{hipster_language_of_choice}".
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#10I love this post, and hope it keeps coming up. Some day, developers will learn that even though they could do it as well as Heroku, given enough time and effort, it's just a lot cheaper not to! This comes up all the time with my company. We make hosted Continous Integration ( https://circleci.com ), and often hear "can't I just set up Jenkins?". And the answer is the same, "you could, but ...". Run it on EC2, where y…
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