Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
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Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
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Re: Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
#2That you for your ongoing work Open Web Advocacy.
Re: Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
#3That you for your ongoing work Open Web Advocacy.
Yes, Thank you! Someone has to do it, Apple is clearly dragging their feet as much as possible.
Re: Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
#4I agree with the point about non-EU web developers.
As long as people in the US can't test their web app on "firefox for iOS" without first buying a plane ticket to the EU and getting an EU sim card, all eu-only browser engines on iOS will be second-class citizens.
I think the next logical extension is that actually limiting general public use across the entire world makes apple less compliant with the DMA. Mozilla will not be able to justify putting significant effort into the iOS port as long as it can only reach a small fraction of users, so in reality the way to get browser-engine competition in the EU is to mandate that apple _not_ impose EU-specific rules about what apps can be installed.
Re: Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
#5I agree with the point about non-EU web developers. As long as people in the US can't test their web app on "firefox for iOS" without first buying a plane ticket to the EU and getting an EU sim card, all eu-only browser engines on iOS will be second-class citizens. I think the next logical extension is that actually limiting general public use across the entire world makes apple less compliant with the DMA. Mozilla w…
And it can’t just be the woefully insufficient TestFlight 10k users because there are possible upwards of a million developers who need to test their websites/web apps in the EU.
Re: Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
#6This Apple policy is the only thing stopping chrome from having a full monopoly, and we should be careful trying to remove it
Re: Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
#7This Apple policy is the only thing stopping chrome from having a full monopoly, and we should be careful trying to remove it
It is shame that this is true. However it should not mean that we need to accept this situation. Hopefully Google anti competitive practices with Chrome can be addressed at the same time.
Re: Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
#8This Apple policy is the only thing stopping chrome from having a full monopoly, and we should be careful trying to remove it
Monopolies are made illegal because they limit consumer choice and the role of competition in the free market, distorting incentives.
The status quo has all of the problems of a monopoly. Doing this or not doing this won't change that. But it will remove another barrier to consumers being able to do what they want.
Re: Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
#9Unfortunately the problem here is that Apple decides that they are the only entity that knows how to do security and no you can't see how they do it. This means whatever choices they make are clearly the right ones.
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