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Show HN: I built an under-the-door fan duct to lower bedroom CO2

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Show HN: I built an under-the-door fan duct to lower bedroom CO2

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Hi HN,

This is my attempt to fix groggy mornings by lowering my bedroom CO2 from 1700 ppm to ~900 ppm.

I designed a simple, 3D-printed fan duct that directs air under the door to improve air circulation.

A note on the design process: I used CadQuery, a Python library for creating parametric 3D models. I didn't know tools like this existed and highly recommend it if you can program; it turned out to be more convenient than manually iterating on prototypes in a GUI.

The project is open source and the post explains the full build. Happy to answer any questions.

Show HN: I built an under-the-door fan duct to lower bedroom CO2
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#3
Generating negative pressure in a room isn't great for fresh air. You'll be sucking air through any opening- wall outlets, floor registers, ceiling light fixtures, gaps in baseboard trim, etc.

Might be simpler to augment your fresh air intake with a fan.

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Given the effort involved (unusually-shaped 3D printed duct and housing for the whole gizmo), ISTM it would make a lot more sense to fit the duct to the trickle vent and operate it in positive pressure mode. This would have lots of advantages:

- With positive pressure, the intake air doesn't pick up contaminants from the wall cavities and other nooks and crannies within the building envelope.

- A fresh air supply fan can be fitted with a high-quality filter (HEPA or near-HEPA) to supply air with approximately zero PM2.5. (This is a very, very effecive way to get indoor air that is cleaner than the outdoor air without substantial power consumption.)

- You can open the door without moving the fan! You can leave it on with the door open! And it may improve the air quality in the rest of the living space more than the under-the-door scheme.

In a very cold climate, it might make more sense to put something like this in a different room so that the unconditioned supply air could be mixed with conditioned indoor air farther from where anyone is trying to sleep.

For what it's worth, there are a couple vendors of paired decentralized ERVs that alternate which one is supply and which one is exhaust and blow all the air through energy recovery cores that buffer both temperature and humidity. They're intended to be installed in holes in the walls, but it ought to be possible to fit them to windows or trickle vents with some creativity to operate them without any permanent modifications to the structure. In a climate with serious weather, energy recovery can substantially improve comfort and efficiency compared to using unconditioned supply air.

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Generating negative pressure in a room isn't great for fresh air. You'll be sucking air through any opening- wall outlets, floor registers, ceiling light fixtures, gaps in baseboard trim, etc. Might be simpler to augment your fresh air intake with a fan.

Good point for standalone houses! I live in an apartment, so everything you listed is backed by some concrete blocks. So, realistically speaking, the air in any meaningful amounts can only come through the window/trickle vent of the door.

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#10

I wonder what the market size for this is. If it were a real product that wasn't super ugly in the bedroom, we'd use it. My BR is ~1500 ppm with two sleepers in a 10x12 room, and opening the window isn't an option.

Heh, never really thought there's a market for it. Though now I can imagine it being sold at some TV shopping channel. A solution to a problem you never knew you had.

Anyway, I think there are plenty of people who do not want to open windows and still have fresh air. But the amount of people who can't modify their room or for whatever reasons don't want to open their bedroom door is bound to be much less.

Now I'm curious, why don't you open your bedroom door? Me, I'm a light sleeper and other apartment dwellers will wake me up if I open the door.

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