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The App Store Nightmare

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Re: The App Store Nightmare

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Yet another example of Apple idiocy (I'm a former customer, having spent easily $100K on Apple hardware).

It became clear to me a year or so ago that Apple is moving in a direction that is anti-developer. At that time I stopped buying their hardware, installed Linux on the Apples I still had, and stopped writing apps for the iPhone. My life has been MUCH easier since then.

We really don't need to be spending any more time dealing with companies like this. We should be collectively writing our own apps for our own open platforms, and forcing them to use the mechanisms that give US control.

Re: The App Store Nightmare

#3
Unfortunately, very little is going to change as this does not affect a large proportion of users. The majority of users will not realize what they lose because of drm and region segregation.

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Unfortunately, very little is going to change as this does not affect a large proportion of users. The majority of users will not realize what they lose because of drm and region segregation.

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Re: The App Store Nightmare

#5
Lest anyone think the problem is solely with juggling accounts across different geographies, here are some examples of how broken the whole Apple ID user experience is, even for people whose digital life never leaves the US:

- It's impossible to merge accounts or move purchases from one account to another, even if they are associated with the the same credit card information

- If you have ever at any point used an email address as the alternate contact on an account, it becomes impossible to make that address the primary contact and ID on that account

- If your Apple ID was created with an Apple email address (e.g., ...@me.com, ...@mac.com), it's impossible to change that email address

Millions of people have content scattered across multiple accounts in part because Apple merged several formerly separate accounts (iTunes, Developer, .Mac, etc.) into the Apple ID system. Yet Apple has made it impossible to unify your user experience.

To add to the absurdity, several Apple services still demand that you create a new Apple ID in some situations (particularly when your account was created for a service that pre-dated the Apple ID system).

And then there are the cross-border problems. ...

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#6
> AFAIK there are no DRM or geolocation limitations on farming equipment yet.

There are limitations on where you can use seeds, though. And countless regulations on what fertilisers you're allowed to use. Modern farming possibly has as much if not more controls and restrictions in place!...

Re: The App Store Nightmare

#7
The writing's been on the wall for a very long time now. This is just another symptom of the continuing clamp down of OS X.

The App Store was the first manacle, and Gatekeeper is the second. It's no longer the default that you can install apps from outside the Apple walled garden. I'll go out on a limb and guess that a couple of OS X versions from now they'll move the override to an obscure command line. The next one after that it will be removed completely.

The sort of Kafkaesque nightmare this poor guy just went through will become the norm, with no way to escape it.

Personally I moved away from the Apple ecosystem a long time ago to Linux. At first I felt bad for the people left behind, but with each new story about non-upgradeable and repairable hardware, needless (and dangerous) patent litigation and the continuing iOSification of OS X, I feel less and less sympathetic towards them.

Re: The App Store Nightmare

#8
> So this leaves me with the following options:

> 1. Completely nuke my machine, create a new US Apple account and repurchase everything (yeah, right)

> 2. Pay $49 to have Apple Support look into the issue

> 3. Give up and use Linux (I hear Windows 8 will have a locked-down App store too)

As a Linux user, the fact that Apple developers are seriously considering moving to Linux makes me very excited. If even 1% of the disgruntled devs decide to go with #3, there will be significant effects in the Linux community. The Linux community is overwhelmingly biased towards the neckbeard crowd, which doesn't care about things like UI/UX. If some of the Apple devs come in and start contributing, things could change quite rapidly.

Re: The App Store Nightmare

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I would have thought that he may have rights under Swedish law. I think EU consumer law should allow it to be raised with Apple in Sweden.

Practically a proxy in Sweden might be the easiest temporary workaround.

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