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Wayland is growing up. and now we don't have a choice

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Re: Wayland is growing up. and now we don't have a choice

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Post by tom_ »

bmacho wrote: post #3
ThrowOregonAway wrote: post #2

XLibre talk is banned here, we DO have a choice.

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I figured enough people just flag the submission, because they don't want to put up with the Xlibre guy's specific category of shit, or that of his inevitable hangers-on. Are they right? Are they wrong? Well, it's their decision. I've seen enough stuff I've flagged myself disappear quickly, and then reappear later (with more surprisingly reasonable discussion than I at least had predicted), to suggest that the admins will retrieve any popular discussion that was unreasonably assigned to the naughty step.

(Of course, admin intervention in the other direction is always a possibility, and that's fair enough too. If you want unmoderated discussion, you'll need to go somewhere else.)

Re: Wayland is growing up. and now we don't have a choice

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Post by resoluteteeth »

Ezhik wrote: post #4
ThrowOregonAway wrote: post #2

XLibre talk is banned here, we DO have a choice.

What's XLibre? Are they taking Linux desktop accessibility more seriously?

It's a fork of x.org that's trying to keep actively developing it more than the x.org developers are interested in doing (because they are working on wayland and see x.org as basically obsolete). That in itself is a reasonable goal but given the person responsible for it I would not be too optimistic about it.

Re: Wayland is growing up. and now we don't have a choice

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Post by anonym29 »

ThrowOregonAway wrote: post #2

XLibre talk is banned here, we DO have a choice.

Can you elaborate more on discussions about XLibre being banned on here? Are accounts that mention it getting banned? Is there just mass downvoting by partisans with some kind of agenda?

I get that X11 has security issues, but NVIDIA drivers and Wayland still seem to have no support now and no support planned for the future, so Wayland is a non-negotiable non-option for many (most?) Linux desktop users, including myself.

That said, with the custodian of X11 refusing to merge 1000+ patches including various bug fixes and security fixes, I'm excited for the prospect of XLibre - this is exactly what Open Source, as an idea, was invented to facilitate - user choice.

Re: Wayland is growing up. and now we don't have a choice

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Post by mkesper »

TLDR (non-AI): The author raises very valid points about accessibility under Wayland. The "And Now We Don’t Have a Choice" subtitle seems to address that only Gnome seems to have usable accessibility under Wayland right now but can easily be misunderstood as "we have no alternative to Wayland". The author also mentions X11 sucked in many ways and that this transition also is a moment to rethink what proper accessibility should fulfill.
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