Meta ignores RFC 2920; ZuckMail can't send mail to servers running OpenSMTPD
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Re: Meta ignores RFC 2920; ZuckMail can't send mail to servers running OpenSMTPD
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#3Above thread created 2 days ago but also isn’t this a broader bug? I was getting no emails on gmail either fwiw (wanted a recovery code, never got the email).
Let’s just wait and see for this one. I do not think it’s OpenSMTPD specific. The reply there is not from Meta, its from OpenSMTPD saying the bug is on Metas side. Which i think is true. I think they might have a major issue which has nothing to do with OpenSMTPD, Metas mail servers are just failing all round.
Re: Meta ignores RFC 2920; ZuckMail can't send mail to servers running OpenSMTPD
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Re: Meta ignores RFC 2920; ZuckMail can't send mail to servers running OpenSMTPD
#5Above thread created 2 days ago but also isn’t this a broader bug? I was getting no emails on gmail either fwiw (wanted a recovery code, never got the email). Let’s just wait and see for this one. I do not think it’s OpenSMTPD specific. The reply there is not from Meta, its from OpenSMTPD saying the bug is on Metas side. Which i think is true. I think they might have a major issue which has nothing to do with OpenSMT…
Indeed it appears to be a long running broader bug [1] of 7 years. Perhaps someone could increase log and header verbosity or enable some form of debugging to see what behavior WhatsApp is invoking. It appears this [2] is how to enable debugging in OpenSMTPD. Once enabled one could trigger an email through WhatsApp to see specifically what it doing. I am nosy and curious enough that I hope someone posts the debug output here after sensitive stuff is redacted. I do not have a WhatsApp account.
[1] - https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/392729/opensmtpd-pi...
[2] - https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/OpenSMTPD#Subsystem_tracing
Re: Meta ignores RFC 2920; ZuckMail can't send mail to servers running OpenSMTPD
#6Not supporting pipelining is a somewhat effective low effort spam filter. Spammers don't have time to wait for response codes, just blast the message and move on to the next sucker.
Re: Meta ignores RFC 2920; ZuckMail can't send mail to servers running OpenSMTPD
#7Above thread created 2 days ago but also isn’t this a broader bug? I was getting no emails on gmail either fwiw (wanted a recovery code, never got the email). Let’s just wait and see for this one. I do not think it’s OpenSMTPD specific. The reply there is not from Meta, its from OpenSMTPD saying the bug is on Metas side. Which i think is true. I think they might have a major issue which has nothing to do with OpenSMT…
Indeed it appears to be a long running broader bug [1] of 7 years . Perhaps someone could increase log and header verbosity or enable some form of debugging to see what behavior WhatsApp is invoking. It appears this [2] is how to enable debugging in OpenSMTPD. Once enabled one could trigger an email through WhatsApp to see specifically what it doing. I am nosy and curious enough that I hope someone posts the debug ou…
There’s no evidence it’s a bug in opensmtpd, rather it’s that other SMTP clients such as WhatsApp’s mail servers are assuming support for the (non-mandatory) PIPELINING extension instead of respecting the EHLO-advertised (lack of) support.
Re: Meta ignores RFC 2920; ZuckMail can't send mail to servers running OpenSMTPD
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Indeed it appears to be a long running broader bug [1] of 7 years . Perhaps someone could increase log and header verbosity or enable some form of debugging to see what behavior WhatsApp is invoking. It appears this [2] is how to enable debugging in OpenSMTPD. Once enabled one could trigger an email through WhatsApp to see specifically what it doing. I am nosy and curious enough that I hope someone posts the debug ou…
There’s no evidence it’s a bug in opensmtpd, rather it’s that other SMTP clients such as WhatsApp’s mail servers are assuming support for the (non-mandatory) PIPELINING extension instead of respecting the EHLO-advertised (lack of) support.
There’s no evidence
That is exactly why I would enable debugging or tracing and see who is sending what and whom is responding or waiting on something expected with timestamps so that nobody is guessing. The tracing should occur on both the sending and receiving side.
Re: Meta ignores RFC 2920; ZuckMail can't send mail to servers running OpenSMTPD
#9Above thread created 2 days ago but also isn’t this a broader bug? I was getting no emails on gmail either fwiw (wanted a recovery code, never got the email). Let’s just wait and see for this one. I do not think it’s OpenSMTPD specific. The reply there is not from Meta, its from OpenSMTPD saying the bug is on Metas side. Which i think is true. I think they might have a major issue which has nothing to do with OpenSMT…
Indeed it appears to be a long running broader bug [1] of 7 years . Perhaps someone could increase log and header verbosity or enable some form of debugging to see what behavior WhatsApp is invoking. It appears this [2] is how to enable debugging in OpenSMTPD. Once enabled one could trigger an email through WhatsApp to see specifically what it doing. I am nosy and curious enough that I hope someone posts the debug ou…
I'll see your 7 and raise you 10.
Re: Meta ignores RFC 2920; ZuckMail can't send mail to servers running OpenSMTPD
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Indeed it appears to be a long running broader bug [1] of 7 years . Perhaps someone could increase log and header verbosity or enable some form of debugging to see what behavior WhatsApp is invoking. It appears this [2] is how to enable debugging in OpenSMTPD. Once enabled one could trigger an email through WhatsApp to see specifically what it doing. I am nosy and curious enough that I hope someone posts the debug ou…
I'll see your 7 and raise you 10. * https://github.com/OpenSMTPD/OpenSMTPD/issues/451
Excellent. That shows debugging will not be enough and one should at least enable tracing [1] probably on both the ZuckMail and OpenSMTPD side. FB's security team should be able to replicate this on the Zuck side if someone has a current contact. I know that a few of them lurk here. I think it's the least they can do after trying to abuse my liver and luring away an amazing coworker with the beautiful blue-haired girl.
[1] - https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/OpenSMTPD#Subsystem_tracing