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'It is a better programmer than me': The reality of being laid off due to AI

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Re: 'It is a better programmer than me': The reality of being laid off due to AI

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I'm sure some people can be replaced by AI. I'm also sure a lot of these stories are just marketing for their crappy GPT wrapper

I think workplaces will have to allow people time to adapt. So that if your particular skill set is replaced by AI, you have the ability to retrain to a part that isn’t.

Ultimately, large part of many jobs are repetitive, and can be replaced by pattern matching. The other side, creating new patterns, is hard and takes time. So, employers will have to take this into account. They may be long periods of “unproductive” time, or more risky evaluation to try new ideas.

Re: 'It is a better programmer than me': The reality of being laid off due to AI

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post #2

I'm sure some people can be replaced by AI. I'm also sure a lot of these stories are just marketing for their crappy GPT wrapper

I think workplaces will have to allow people time to adapt. So that if your particular skill set is replaced by AI, you have the ability to retrain to a part that isn’t. Ultimately, large part of many jobs are repetitive, and can be replaced by pattern matching. The other side, creating new patterns, is hard and takes time. So, employers will have to take this into account. They may be long periods of “unproductive”…

Who's doing all the prompting for people being laid off though? How does that transition look like?

Does the middle manager which before bugged people to do the work now write a prompt and commit code and file documents themselves?

Re: 'It is a better programmer than me': The reality of being laid off due to AI

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I'm sure some people can be replaced by AI. I'm also sure a lot of these stories are just marketing for their crappy GPT wrapper

I think workplaces will have to allow people time to adapt. So that if your particular skill set is replaced by AI, you have the ability to retrain to a part that isn’t. Ultimately, large part of many jobs are repetitive, and can be replaced by pattern matching. The other side, creating new patterns, is hard and takes time. So, employers will have to take this into account. They may be long periods of “unproductive”…

It’s the responsibility of individuals to continue learning. Choosing, and to be clear, it is a choice, to stop learning can have dire consequences.

We are now a few years into LLMs being widely available/used, and if someone’s chosen to stick their head in the sand and ignore what’s happening around them, then that’s on them.

> I think workplaces will have to allow people time to adapt.

This feels like a very outdated view to me. Maybe we are worse off for that being the case but by and large that will not happen. The people who take initiative and learn will advance, while the people who refused to learn anything new or change how they’ve been doing the job for XX years will be pushed out.

Re: 'It is a better programmer than me': The reality of being laid off due to AI

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I think workplaces will have to allow people time to adapt. So that if your particular skill set is replaced by AI, you have the ability to retrain to a part that isn’t. Ultimately, large part of many jobs are repetitive, and can be replaced by pattern matching. The other side, creating new patterns, is hard and takes time. So, employers will have to take this into account. They may be long periods of “unproductive”…

It’s the responsibility of individuals to continue learning. Choosing, and to be clear, it is a choice, to stop learning can have dire consequences. We are now a few years into LLMs being widely available/used, and if someone’s chosen to stick their head in the sand and ignore what’s happening around them, then that’s on them. > I think workplaces will have to allow people time to adapt. This feels like a very outdat…

The difference for me, is that things are changing too fast to keep up. For example, if a large part of your job is taken away seemingly overnight, by a new model, your whole job could change in a heartbeat.

What preparation are you supposed to do for this ? Previously, change was relatively slow and it was reasonable to keep up in your own time. I believe that is no longer possible.

Re: 'It is a better programmer than me': The reality of being laid off due to AI

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I'm sure some people can be replaced by AI. I'm also sure a lot of these stories are just marketing for their crappy GPT wrapper

I think workplaces will have to allow people time to adapt. So that if your particular skill set is replaced by AI, you have the ability to retrain to a part that isn’t. Ultimately, large part of many jobs are repetitive, and can be replaced by pattern matching. The other side, creating new patterns, is hard and takes time. So, employers will have to take this into account. They may be long periods of “unproductive”…

> So that if your particular skill set is replaced by AI

Is AI capable of any skill ? I mean, Microsoft or Google SW looks like it is written by AI but this is since 20 years

Re: 'It is a better programmer than me': The reality of being laid off due to AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think workplaces will have to allow people time to adapt. So that if your particular skill set is replaced by AI, you have the ability to retrain to a part that isn’t. Ultimately, large part of many jobs are repetitive, and can be replaced by pattern matching. The other side, creating new patterns, is hard and takes time. So, employers will have to take this into account. They may be long periods of “unproductive”…

Who's doing all the prompting for people being laid off though? How does that transition look like? Does the middle manager which before bugged people to do the work now write a prompt and commit code and file documents themselves?

I’m not saying people will be laid off, although this is what the article is about. So, I think people will still be prompting, but if you can prompt an agent and it can happily code away, what are you supposed to be doing ? Watching it do its work ? The only option is that you will have to generate ideas of new work constantly to drive value. This is something that generally happens over time now, but as implementation becomes quicker; idea generation will have to accelerate.

Re: 'It is a better programmer than me': The reality of being laid off due to AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who's doing all the prompting for people being laid off though? How does that transition look like? Does the middle manager which before bugged people to do the work now write a prompt and commit code and file documents themselves?

I’m not saying people will be laid off, although this is what the article is about. So, I think people will still be prompting, but if you can prompt an agent and it can happily code away, what are you supposed to be doing ? Watching it do its work ? The only option is that you will have to generate ideas of new work constantly to drive value. This is something that generally happens over time now, but as implementat…

> So, I think people will still be prompting, but if you can prompt an agent and it can happily code away, what are you supposed to be doing ? Watching it do its work ?

Well, what do managers do once they prompt junior developers? ;)

Also, "tell a prompt and wait for it to finish without intervention" is not something that happens even with magical Claud Code.

I'd really like to see some actual theory (and position, people) surfaced that can be laid off due to AI and who and how then actually runs the LLMs in the company after layoffs. I've never been in a company where new work wouldn't fill up the available developer capacity, so I'm really interested in how the new world would look like.

Re: 'It is a better programmer than me': The reality of being laid off due to AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not saying people will be laid off, although this is what the article is about. So, I think people will still be prompting, but if you can prompt an agent and it can happily code away, what are you supposed to be doing ? Watching it do its work ? The only option is that you will have to generate ideas of new work constantly to drive value. This is something that generally happens over time now, but as implementat…

> So, I think people will still be prompting, but if you can prompt an agent and it can happily code away, what are you supposed to be doing ? Watching it do its work ? Well, what do managers do once they prompt junior developers? ;) Also, "tell a prompt and wait for it to finish without intervention" is not something that happens even with magical Claud Code. I'd really like to see some actual theory (and position,…

> Also, "tell a prompt and wait for it to finish without intervention" is not something that happens even with magical Claud Code.

That is how you interact with OpenAI's Codex though.

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