Freemium is alive and kicking
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Freemium is alive and kicking
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#2Convincing someone to switch from paying $0 and $1 is hard, much harder than $1 to $10. If there's not enough value in the paid version, why switch? Finding that killer feature that will cause people to pay without chasing off the free users is hard.
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#3Sometimes, free users are actually hurting (they will write bad reviews, send hate email and write hate posts saying that "I don't want to pay", etc.)
For example, 37signals Basecamp does not have free tier any more. It would be great to hear from them why they decided to remove it and data behind their decision.
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#5Before blindly adopting freemium as the default pricing for your app, think long and hard about this:
Freemium has a longer sales cycle than enterprise.
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#6I am, however, thinking of dropping the freemium model. Not because it wasn't successful, but because now that Scribophile has an established reputation, requiring an up-front payment would help keep out trolls or members who aren't interested in participating. The idea is to improve the quality of the community, not take a dive into my swimming pool full of gold coins. But I'm still pondering if that's the right decision.
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#7My site, Scribophile, was freemium from day 1 and was profitable from day 15. Freemium is still an excellent way to hook people on a service, because there's no risk to them. If they find your service truly useful, they'll pay without question. I am, however, thinking of dropping the freemium model. Not because it wasn't successful, but because now that Scribophile has an established reputation, requiring an up-front…
> If they find your service truly useful, they'll pay without question.
If they find your free service truly useful and it meets all their needs, why would they give you money?
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#8Is this a YC vs Techstar philosophical difference?
If anything I think both YC and TS just reflect the wider market with some extra noise and ideally better outcomes.
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#9My site, Scribophile, was freemium from day 1 and was profitable from day 15. Freemium is still an excellent way to hook people on a service, because there's no risk to them. If they find your service truly useful, they'll pay without question. I am, however, thinking of dropping the freemium model. Not because it wasn't successful, but because now that Scribophile has an established reputation, requiring an up-front…
I've been running W3Counter for around 8 years. A fraction of 1% of its users pay anything, while a significant number of people log in to the site multiple days a week for years. They obviously find it useful, but they have no reason to pay. > If they find your service truly useful, they'll pay without question. If they find your free service truly useful and it meets all their needs, why would they give you money?
This will shape them psychologically to be ok with the lesser free version in most cases.
Freemium does work, but not just because it gives users an opportunity to try something out with no risk. So do free trials. Very very few companies actually do freemium right, and would stand to benefit from a free trial instead (which doesn't have the same psychological implications that a truly free plan has)
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#10One of the problems with the freemium model is that many people sometimes seem to pick a revenue target arbitrarily and then backfill their projections with the necessary conversion rate. Obviously, few firms or entrepreneurs want to expose their pricing models publicly in forums like HN, but startups need to be able to answer the question of what marginal utility they provide to their potential customers. The 'less than a cup of coffee!' model of app pricing, for example, assumes that since coffee is such a small thing users will be just as willing to throw down $3 for an app. But the coffee has physical, psychological and social value for the consumer that pays off on a predictable time horizon - and pays off not just the $3, but the time spent standing in line or buying and brewing your own coffee. Consumer preferences in for this commodity are sufficiently complex to support a large and extremely competitive market. If it was 'just coffee' then it would cost the same everywhere and vendors would be limited to normal rather than economic profits. A better approach for vendors might be to assume your target consumer does not have endless disposable income. What value does your product or service provide that would make a coffee consumer go without their favorite beverage for a day? Or if not coffee, a competitor's offering or some other part of the consumer's status quo? How does your offering compare to the composite bundle?