HTAP is Dead

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Post by moonikakiss » Wed, May 28, 2025, 10:22 PM UTC

HTAP is Dead
mooncake.dev

Re: HTAP is Dead

#2

Post by cwillu » Wed, May 28, 2025, 11:51 PM UTC

That is the worst smooth scrolling hijack I've ever seen, and the whole site breaks if you disable javascript.

Re: HTAP is Dead

#3

Post by charcircuit » Wed, May 28, 2025, 11:52 PM UTC

>Cursor is powered by a single-box Postgres instance

Why wouldn't it? The resources needed to run the backend of Cursor come from the compute for the AI models. Updating someone's quota in a database every few minutes is not going to be causing issues.

Re: HTAP is Dead

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Post by cwillu » Wed, May 28, 2025, 11:53 PM UTC

cwillu wrote: post #2

That is the worst smooth scrolling hijack I've ever seen, and the whole site breaks if you disable javascript.

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Re: HTAP is Dead

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Post by bob1029 » Wed, May 28, 2025, 11:56 PM UTC

I've always been impressed by the architecture of the Hyperscale service tier of MSSQL in Azure. It is arguably a competitor in this area.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/azure-sql/database/h...

Re: HTAP is Dead

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Post by TOMDM » Wed, May 28, 2025, 11:57 PM UTC

Terrible scrolling aside;

> pg_mooncake is a PostgreSQL extension adding columnstore tables with DuckDB execution for 1000x faster analytics. Columnstore tables are stored as Iceberg or Delta Lake tables in your Object Store. Maintained by Mooncake Labs, it is available on Neon Postgres.

Seems to summarise the reason this article exists.

Not that I really disagree with the premise or conclusion of the article itself.

Re: HTAP is Dead

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Post by ericyd » Thu, May 29, 2025, 12:04 AM UTC

cwillu wrote: post #4

cwillu wrote: post #2

That is the worst smooth scrolling hijack I've ever seen, and the whole site breaks if you disable javascript.

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I'm much more offended by your egregious copy paste comment than the actual site experience.

Re: HTAP is Dead

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Post by ashvardanian » Thu, May 29, 2025, 12:08 AM UTC

From a modern startup’s POV - fast pivots, fast feedback - it’s fair to say HTAP is “dead.” The market is sticky and slow-moving. But I’d argue that’s precisely why it’s still interesting: fewer teams can survive the long game, but the payoff can be disproportionate.

Re: HTAP is Dead

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Post by zhousun » Thu, May 29, 2025, 12:16 AM UTC

charcircuit wrote: post #3

>Cursor is powered by a single-box Postgres instance Why wouldn't it? The resources needed to run the backend of Cursor come from the compute for the AI models. Updating someone's quota in a database every few minutes is not going to be causing issues.

there's actually a great read, cursor started with a distributed OLTP solution: yugabyte, and then fall back to RDS...

Re: HTAP is Dead

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Post by bcoates » Thu, May 29, 2025, 12:22 AM UTC

charcircuit wrote: post #3

>Cursor is powered by a single-box Postgres instance Why wouldn't it? The resources needed to run the backend of Cursor come from the compute for the AI models. Updating someone's quota in a database every few minutes is not going to be causing issues.

In the nosql era the idea that you could run even the basics for a >1m user SaaS platform on an ordinary, free, single-node transactional SQL database would have been considered nuts.