Why can't Ivies cope with losing a few hundred million?

pjc50 wrote: post #4

"Free speech" is when the President unilaterally withholds research grants from universities, based on statements made by students (not faculty)?

This is the double edge sword of moving away from voluntary transaction in the market and towards government-imposed funding. The government takes away your ability to choose what to fund, holds the purse, then smacks the purse at you filled with the weight of your own money.

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Post by steveBK123 » Wed, Apr 30, 2025, 2:53 PM UTC

I am not a fan of the orange man.

But I think its an interesting question if the feds should be funding rich Ivies with small numbers of students vs more efficient state universities which educated 100s of thousands each at a fraction of the cost per student.

All of the Ivy League combined educate 65k undergrads. SUNY by comparison educates 5x that many at a tuition of 1/5th to 1/10th depending on in/out of state and community vs vs 4 year college.

Obviously what he is doing is punitive. BUT, I think the constant focus in the press on the Ivys when we talk about education is a huge distraction from how we are actually going to improve access, quality & cost to education in this county.

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Post by amazingamazing » Wed, Apr 30, 2025, 2:54 PM UTC

private schools shouldn't be getting public money. shocking people disagree. yes they do research that benefits the public. so does Meta and Google, who don't get public money. public money should go to public schools.

especially considering that the PIs who do the work in the private school scenario effectively boost the private school's clout with public money, but these private schools do not increase accessibility by opening up admission further.

that said, trump is also doing this for the wrong reasons, sadly.