What we get when male fitness standards clash with female preferences
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What we get when male fitness standards clash with female preferences
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#2It was my long term observation - the buffed guys in movies and video games are for other men to look at and admire. They are in games and movies targeted at men. Movies targeted at women have different male physicality.
Gym is something men do to compete with other men and look good to other men. It has zero to do with what women like.
But when I wrote that in comments, invariably, men felt offended and angry.
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#3> A bunch of guys got furious that women did not appreciate Olly’s gains
Those are not real "gains", he looks like a chicken with muscles in the second photo, maybe a chicken that can lift some weights but still a chicken. I'm a male, if it counts.
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#4It was my long term observation - the buffed guys in movies and video games are for other men to look at and admire. They are in games and movies targeted at men. Movies targeted at women have different male physicality. Gym is something men do to compete with other men and look good to other men. It has zero to do with what women like. But when I wrote that in comments, invariably, men felt offended and angry.
> Gym is something men do to compete with other men
That's a massive overgeneralisation. Gym is not just for looks. Based on local gym, it's not even the main purpose. There's lots of people using it for maintaining basic fitness.
I'm writing it here, because when I was growing up, many people genuinely had the idea that you start going to the gym to become a bodybuilder. In case anyone needs to hear it - no - feel free to go to just be more healthy.
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#5Why this is even posted here
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#6I don't think you can get much of an accurate answer over whether women prefer buff men from this. He's doing a pose which makes him look tiny in comparison, skinny with oversized arms. The lighting doesn't help either, it makes him look balder and his face look older. Also he's got some decent muscle in the before picture, just a higher bodyfat %. I'd be interested to know what the results would look like if it was more of a recomp where he was closer to his starting weight but with more mass, rather than a straight cut.
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#7It was my long term observation - the buffed guys in movies and video games are for other men to look at and admire. They are in games and movies targeted at men. Movies targeted at women have different male physicality. Gym is something men do to compete with other men and look good to other men. It has zero to do with what women like. But when I wrote that in comments, invariably, men felt offended and angry.
> Gym is something men do to compete with other men That's a massive overgeneralisation. Gym is not just for looks. Based on local gym, it's not even the main purpose. There's lots of people using it for maintaining basic fitness. I'm writing it here, because when I was growing up, many people genuinely had the idea that you start going to the gym to become a bodybuilder. In case anyone needs to hear it - no - feel f…
People to want to maintain basic fitness wont prioritize muscle growth over everything. Even more importantly, they will do sports that are not "the gym" - cycling, soccer, running, basketball, climbing and what not.
Gym culture is heavily biased toward something else. And when you look at advice about training guys are getting and seeking, it is all about muscles growth. Nothing about being faster, healthier, have balanced performance ... no other goal is as discussed as muscle growth.
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#8It was my long term observation - the buffed guys in movies and video games are for other men to look at and admire. They are in games and movies targeted at men. Movies targeted at women have different male physicality. Gym is something men do to compete with other men and look good to other men. It has zero to do with what women like. But when I wrote that in comments, invariably, men felt offended and angry.
If you’re commenting on hacker news, you definitely need to go to the gym on a regular basis. Has nothing to do with looks and everything to do with your physical and mental health.
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#9I generally agree with the points being made so this is just for added context:
His wife is a fitness influencer and bodybuilder who has been leading his training.
Not sure how that impacts things overall but think it interesting and relevant.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Gym is something men do to compete with other men That's a massive overgeneralisation. Gym is not just for looks. Based on local gym, it's not even the main purpose. There's lots of people using it for maintaining basic fitness. I'm writing it here, because when I was growing up, many people genuinely had the idea that you start going to the gym to become a bodybuilder. In case anyone needs to hear it - no - feel f…
People to want to maintain basic fitness wont prioritize muscle growth over everything. Even more importantly, they will do sports that are not "the gym" - cycling, soccer, running, basketball, climbing and what not. Gym culture is heavily biased toward something else. And when you look at advice about training guys are getting and seeking, it is all about muscles growth. Nothing about being faster, healthier, have b…
Maybe that's regional or specific to some chains, but not universal. About half the people in my gym come in only for cardio machines. The PTs start with - "so what do you want to achieve?". As for sports you listed, soccer and basketball rely on available groups - it's not for everyone; climbing depends on available walls which only exist in larger towns and cities (1.5h to my closest one); running/cycling depends on various conditions, so many people do that... at the gym.