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OpenVSX, which VSCode forks rely on for extensions, down for 24 hours

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Re: OpenVSX, which VSCode forks rely on for extensions, down for 24 hours

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Post by exceptione »

There is not much to see on a server that is down, so let me share some free advice instead.

Visit Eclipse Theia in the mean time when you are serious about de-risking from VSCode. I think VSCodium is doing an uphill battle here, while Microsoft can't help them self being a sales company first. In Theia, everything is open and free of spyware. MS is under no obligation to provide an OSS editor, but playing tricks after luring people in is not nice.

EDIT:

1. Eclipse Theia is a different platform than Eclipse the Java IDE.

2. link: https://theia-ide.org/#theiaidedownload

Re: OpenVSX, which VSCode forks rely on for extensions, down for 24 hours

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Post by mdaniel »

exceptione wrote: post #2

There is not much to see on a server that is down, so let me share some free advice instead. Visit Eclipse Theia in the mean time when you are serious about de-risking from VSCode. I think VSCodium is doing an uphill battle here, while Microsoft can't help them self being a sales company first. In Theia, everything is open and free of spyware. MS is under no obligation to provide an OSS editor, but playing tricks aft…

https://theia-ide.org/docs/user_install_vscode_extensions/#c... (sigh)

> Please note that a few parts of the VS Code extension API are only stubbed in Theia. Extensions will be installable, but some features might not work as expected.

Also, I thought Theia was a cloud IDE, and it seems like I was mostly right in that 2/3rds of their offering is (localhost:3000 & docker) but they also now apparently bundle it in Electron which I haven't tried

Re: OpenVSX, which VSCode forks rely on for extensions, down for 24 hours

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Post by exceptione »

mdaniel wrote: post #3
exceptione wrote: post #2

There is not much to see on a server that is down, so let me share some free advice instead. Visit Eclipse Theia in the mean time when you are serious about de-risking from VSCode. I think VSCodium is doing an uphill battle here, while Microsoft can't help them self being a sales company first. In Theia, everything is open and free of spyware. MS is under no obligation to provide an OSS editor, but playing tricks aft…

https://theia-ide.org/docs/user_install_vscode_extensions/#c... (sigh) > Please note that a few parts of the VS Code extension API are only stubbed in Theia. Extensions will be installable, but some features might not work as expected. Also, I thought Theia was a cloud IDE, and it seems like I was mostly right in that 2/3rds of their offering is (localhost:3000 & docker) but they also now apparently bundle it in Elec…

Note they say that most extensions are compatible, and those not listed as compatible might still be.

The API surface covers almost 100% that of vscode, I only see some AI integration API's that are stubbed, and that is because Theia has their own vision here and doesn't want to depend on MS.

The complete API compatibility list is here, the stubbed API's are not core imho:

https://eclipse-theia.github.io/vscode-theia-comparator/stat...

Re: OpenVSX, which VSCode forks rely on for extensions, down for 24 hours

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Post by ghuntley »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #4

Remember vs code is designed to fracture and the forks are an integral part of that. https://ghuntley.com/fracture/

Thanks for the share. Yeah, building upon VSCode (MIT) is a stupid idea. Regarding OpenVSX, it was developed whilst I was at Gitpod and transferred to the Eclipse Foundation. It's been many years now, so my memory might be a little dated as to what came first, but OpenVSX/Gitpod/Thiea/Eclipse origins can all be traced back to https://www.typefox.io/.

Anyway. OpenVSX is classic XKCD https://xkcd.com/2347/ territory—run by a small crew of brilliant volunteers, but the entire world depends/freeloads upon them.

Re: OpenVSX, which VSCode forks rely on for extensions, down for 24 hours

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Post by 38 »

joshstrange wrote: post #7

I'm sure some (many?) will disagree with me but: VSCode is Android. Or rather, VSCode's source is AOSP and the marketplace, plugins, etc are Google Play Services. I say that with maximum derision.

as someone who has reversed the Google Play Services API, its utterly evil and you are correct that its about as far from open source as you can get

Re: OpenVSX, which VSCode forks rely on for extensions, down for 24 hours

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Post by ghuntley »

joshstrange wrote: post #7

I'm sure some (many?) will disagree with me but: VSCode is Android. Or rather, VSCode's source is AOSP and the marketplace, plugins, etc are Google Play Services. I say that with maximum derision.

you are correct. vscode (mit) is utterly evil - see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43786380
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