More Everything Forever

The phrase "grift behind AI doomerism" suggests that either the book author or the reviewer (or both) don't have a clue. AI will cause real and huge problems.

Re: More Everything Forever

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Post by _vertigo » Wed, Apr 23, 2025, 4:33 PM UTC

cousin_it wrote: post #7

c0rtex wrote: post #2

Also reviewed by Cory Doctorow: https://pluralistic.net/2025/04/22/vinges-bastards/#cyberpun...

The phrase "grift behind AI doomerism" suggests that either the book author or the reviewer (or both) don't have a clue. AI will cause real and huge problems.

I think that depends on whether your definition of “doomerism” is the same as theirs.

Re: More Everything Forever

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Post by amarcheschi » Wed, Apr 23, 2025, 4:35 PM UTC

cousin_it wrote: post #7

c0rtex wrote: post #2

Also reviewed by Cory Doctorow: https://pluralistic.net/2025/04/22/vinges-bastards/#cyberpun...

The phrase "grift behind AI doomerism" suggests that either the book author or the reviewer (or both) don't have a clue. AI will cause real and huge problems.

But the main figures behind the Ai doomerism are nutjobs either applying bayesian math in a bad way or right wing extremist believing that black people are inferior for genetics reason (I know it's an overreach that doesn't represent all the population of Ai doomers, but the most important people in that sphere are represented by what I said).

Furthermore, they're people without a history in academia or a specific past in philosophy. Although i do agree that investigating Ai dangers should be done, but in an academic context

Re: More Everything Forever

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Post by amarcheschi » Wed, Apr 23, 2025, 4:37 PM UTC

c0rtex wrote: post #2

Also reviewed by Cory Doctorow: https://pluralistic.net/2025/04/22/vinges-bastards/#cyberpun...

Yesterday I had someone here tell me timnit gebru didn't contribute to hard science

She has a PhD in electrical engineering and has worked at Google before researching on Ai with a more philosophical approach