Live data from Hacker News

Playing in the Creek

hgreer.com

1–10 of 122 posts

Re: Playing in the Creek

#3

Requesting someone to please explain the "coquina" metaphor.

I think that they're saying a little bit of playing around with replacing thinking and composing with automated tools is recoverable, but at an industrial or societal scale the damage is significant. Like the difference between shoveling away some sand with your hands to bury the small creatures temporarily and actually destroying their habitat by "lobbying city council members to put in a groin or seawall, and seriously move that beach sand."

Re: Playing in the Creek

#4

Requesting someone to please explain the "coquina" metaphor.

My understanding is that the author is this superior being trying to accomplish a massive task (damming a beach) while knowing that it could cause problems for these clams. In the real world, Anthropic is trying to accomplish a massive task (building AGI) and they're finally starting to notice the potential impacts this has on people.

Re: Playing in the Creek

#5
This is an excellent essay, and I feel similar to the author but couldn't express it as nicely.

However if we are counting on AI researchers to take the advice and slow down then I wouldn't hold my breath waiting. The author indicated they stepped away from a high paying finance job for moral reasons, which is admirable. But wallstreet continues on and does not lack for people willing to play the "make as much money as you can" game.

Re: Playing in the Creek

#6

Requesting someone to please explain the "coquina" metaphor.

Coquinas are clams that bury themselves in the sand very close to the surface [1]. The author worries that while they are playing with the sand, they might accidentally bury coquina clams too deep and kill them because they can no longer reach the surface.

Anthropic apparently is starting to notice the possible danger to others of their work. I'm not sure what they are referring to.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZUlf7quu3o

Re: Playing in the Creek

#8
post #3

Requesting someone to please explain the "coquina" metaphor.

I think that they're saying a little bit of playing around with replacing thinking and composing with automated tools is recoverable, but at an industrial or societal scale the damage is significant. Like the difference between shoveling away some sand with your hands to bury the small creatures temporarily and actually destroying their habitat by "lobbying city council members to put in a groin or seawall, and serio…

I skimmed the Anthropic report and didn't catch the negative effects. Did they mention any? Good on them if they did.

Re: Playing in the Creek

#10
post #6

Requesting someone to please explain the "coquina" metaphor.

Coquinas are clams that bury themselves in the sand very close to the surface [1]. The author worries that while they are playing with the sand, they might accidentally bury coquina clams too deep and kill them because they can no longer reach the surface. Anthropic apparently is starting to notice the possible danger to others of their work. I'm not sure what they are referring to. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch…

> Anthropic apparently is starting to notice the possible danger to others of their work. I'm not sure what they are referring to.

Are they being vague about the danger? If possible, please link to a communique from them. I've missed it somehow. Thanks.

Post reply on HN